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  by Bracdude181
 
They got through finally. Permission on Church 2:48 PM
  by Bracdude181
 
Permission to open up 3:00 PM

Different conductor today. Someone I recognize but I don’t know his name.

CSX 6159 with 1 car for Marjam and about 7 or so for Woodhaven. No tanks today.
  by Bracdude181
 
You won’t be hearing anything from me for a bit. Flat tire. Can’t leave until AAA shows up.
  by Tanker1497
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:39 pm You won’t be hearing anything from me for a bit. Flat tire. Can’t leave until AAA shows up.
What is this world coming too? You can't change a flat tire!
I'm 62 stage 4 cancer, taken chemotherapy, and ADT aka female hormones for 4 years...
I could change that flat in 20 minutes!
  by CharlieL
 
Regarding transloading at the former Golds lumber or the adjacent Richards truck park, any truck traffic to that site would need to use Southard Ave. Which means they would need to pass by either Howell high school or the Farmingdale elementary school. There are no other exits negotiable by a truck of any size. And they certainly would not attempt a turn onto Main St. Any truck traffic other than an occasional would cause problems. All turns off Southard other than 524A southbound are very tight. And there are no major highways nearby.
  by JohnFromJersey
 
Train is passing through Farmingdale just before 5:30!

@Tanker1497 quite a scathing comment there, lol. I'm sorry to hear about the cancer, I wish you the best of health.

@CharlieL That is true, they could just use the light at Howell High school and it wouldn't be too bad; the 195 entrance/exit is right there. I also believe they are slated to have some sort of mini (yet still large) industrial park be built across from the middle school down the road from the high school. Either or I don't think that it will be a welcomed venture by the locals, however, since Gold's spot is already there and zoned for industrial (I am assuming), with rail access, the locals might be beat on that one.
  by Bracdude181
 
@Tanker1497 I tried to but the jack I have on me failed. Sorry to hear about your cancer.

By the time AAA got there the train was already through farmingdale so I’m looking for it south of there.
  by R&DB
 
#1582683 by CharlieL
Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:15 pm
So if the problrm is truck traffic, I ask how did all those trailers get to the lot next door?
  by GSC
 
Plenty of large truck traffic at Main and Southard now. It is a tight corner but the trucks handle it. I would go the other way myself. 524A is right there. Other trucks go by the high school. It can be done.
  by RailsEast
 
Best wishes for a successful recovery, brother; you're a tough son of a gun, you got this...

Chris
  by Bracdude181
 
Through Maxim Southard Road at 6:54 PM
  by R&DB
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:55 pm Through Maxim Southard Road at 6:54 PM
The Southern crosses Maxim Rd, not Maxim Southard Rd. I know, I lived on Maxim for 10 years.
  by CharlieL
 
Transload facility there would need to be a small one, hardly worth the effort. There is a location across from the Richards operation that occasionally gets a trailer backed in. I'm guessing maybe 2 or 3 trucks a day currently use Southard ave. Much more than that would have both Farmingdale and Howell up in arms. Can't see that happening (but I've been wrong before; if you doubt that, talk to my wife. She'll give you a list from each of the 48 years and a couple prior to that).
  by JohnFromJersey
 
R&DB wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:35 pm
#1582683 by CharlieL
Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:15 pm
So if the problrm is truck traffic, I ask how did all those trailers get to the lot next door?
It's a storage lot for trailers, at maximum there's only a couple trucks a day, if even, that shuffle the trailers around. I'm assuming that it's an overflow spot for their main spot in Wall on 34. The transloading facility could have barely any trucks or dozens a day, depends on how successful it is. I've never seen any transloading facilities besides the small ones that Brick Recycling, Marjam, and whoever gets the tankers now do, and the huge intermodal facilities out west, so I don't know what to expect with a property the size of Gold's.

Speaking of Brick Recycling, will C&D start to serve them again? I remember a rumor here about how they stopped receiving loads due to how small their shipments were or something to do with Coastline restrictions.
  by JohnFromJersey
 
CharlieL wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:27 pm Transload facility there would need to be a small one, hardly worth the effort. There is a location across from the Richards operation that occasionally gets a trailer backed in. I'm guessing maybe 2 or 3 trucks a day currently use Southard ave. Much more than that would have both Farmingdale and Howell up in arms. Can't see that happening (but I've been wrong before; if you doubt that, talk to my wife. She'll give you a list from each of the 48 years and a couple prior to that).
Oh, it's a small plot of land for sure. However, it's already got the industrial zoning, an essentially blank slate, and has rail access, and you could probably expand it if you had the money to buy more land. If it was served more than once a week, keeping the flow of goods moving, I could see the small operation doing decently well. Not to mention it's closer to some warehouses here, and it doesn't have the awkward access situation that Brick Recycling's transloading siding has.

I'm sure a much bigger one could be built somewhere else, but there would be a lot less paper pushing at Gold's former spot.
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