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Forum dedicated to the Seaboard System Railroad and its predecessors, aka The Family Lines System, prior to its operational merger with the Chessie System, forming CSX, in 1982. Predecessors included the Atlantic Coast Line, the West Point Route, the Clinchfield, the Louisville and Nashville, the Seaboard Air Line, and the Seaboard Coast Line.
 #455862  by musicmarine
 
Hello,

Just wanted to see if there are any Clinchfield RR fans that are on this site. I grew up around the CRR when I was younger and my step-grandfather retired from the CRR just before it was taken over by Conrail and then CSX. Was wondering what kind of interesting fact and findings that anyone would be able to offer up. I love reading about the CRR. I have Bob Helms book "Clinchfield in the Coal Fields." Does anyone have any other suggestions as far as reading material goes, having to do with the CRR? Thanks for the info and hopefully we can generate a good discussion about the CRR!!!

 #455881  by GOLDEN-ARM
 
I always believed that the CSX acquired the Clinchfield, through it's "Family Lines" of southern regional railroad acquisitions. Wasn't aware they got it from Conrail. Interesting.........
 #455933  by musicmarine
 
I am pretty sure Conrail took it at least for a few years prior to CSX.
I don't have any references for that but I do remeber a time after 1982 when the CRR shut down, all the motive power on the railroad went to conrail. It was mostly chessie system for quite a while as well. Now all of the rails at least on the north end are CSX. The history of the CRR is really interesting. It is built in a place that you wonldn't normally put a railroad. Lots of mountain RRing. I would like to have been around when the 4-8-8-4's were traversing the tracks.
 #455964  by Aa3rt
 
musicmarine wrote:I would like to have been around when the 4-8-8-4's were traversing the tracks.
I don't believe any railroad other than the Union Pacific ever operated 4-8-8-4's (AKA "Big Boys"). I think you're confusing these with the 4-6-6-4's (Challengers), some of them ex-DRG&W, that operated on the Clinchfield.

Check out: http://steamlocomotive.com/challenger/clinch.shtml

A couple of other on-line Clinchfield links:

http://www.carolina-clinchfield.org

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/clinch.htm
Last edited by Aa3rt on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:14 am, edited 1 time in total.

 #457008  by Nelson Bay
 
GA is right- Clinchfield -> Family Lines -> Seaboard System -> CSX

 #459389  by musicmarine
 
You are correct about the heritage of the Clichfield. I was confused when writing my orginal post. Also about the 4-6-6-4's. Sorry, will try ot be more accuate next time.

I have benn to Dante Yard many times. The CRR was a great railroad with great RRing. The moutains put on some tremendous building challenges. So many tunnels it is hard to keep up with. What a great Railroad!!

 #464780  by unclejed56
 
Well....whip me with a wet noodle if I'm really wrong, but I think it went like this....
The Clinchfield merged with the Seaboard Systems Family Lines.
The Seaboard System was then acquired by C & O, and at the same time they changed their name to CSX, incorporating both rail companies and establishing the headquarters at Seaboard's offices in Jacksonville, FL.

 #475139  by Lehighton_Man
 
your getting there, but not quite.
Clinchfield decided to join the Family Lines system, comprimised of the L&N, CRR, C&O, B&O, ACL, and Seaboard system. then, C&O broke off the Family lines, in bankruptcy, and renamed itself Chessie System, which then merged with the Family Lines. Hence why CSX is Called CSX...
Chessie-Seaboard-X C..S..X (X meaning multiply, or merger in this case)
Cheers,
Sean

 #533802  by SSW9389
 
Dang, and here I thought that Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio Railway was leased jointly by the Atlantic Coast Line Railroad and the Louisville & Nashville Railroad and operated by the Clinchfield Railroad Company. And that such lease was effected on May 11, 1923 for a period of 999 years by the above mentioned companies. And that the Atlantic Coast Line had control of the Louisville & Nashville Railroad at that time due to a one third stock ownership and that stock ownership had been in place since 1902. When Seaboard Coast Line was formed in 1967 control of Clinchfield passed to that Corporation along with L&N. And When Seaboard System was formed in the early '80s control of Clinchfield was part of that. And that the Family Lines was a marketing concept and never a railroad corporation. But I can forget all that corporate and financial information because I can read the revised history of the Clinchfield on this thread.

Financial data from Moody's. :wink:

 #533810  by SSW9389
 
Some light reading here. Seaboard Coast Line Industries bought out the remaining L&N stock in 1971. Therefore SCLI owned both railroads that leased the Clinchfield. The joint marketing scheme of SCLI for its major railroads SCL and L&N was called "The Family Lines" of which Clinchfield was a part. With the creation of Seaboard System in 1982 there was no longer any reason for a seperate operating company called the Clinchfield.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinchfield_Railroad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaboard_C ... e_Railroad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville ... e_Railroad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Lines_System

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaboard_System_Railroad