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Took this shot a couple weeks back. I realized after I shot it that all of these engines are in jeopardy of disappearing (California emission controls may soon not allow them)... and with the triple tracking of Cajon, this section of Blue Cut will soon look different.
With the GP30u over 40 years old is it not exempt from the emission standards? I can understand why the 16-18 year old B40-8Ws would not be exempt as well as the 18-19 year old B40-8s.
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by erielackawanna
Good question, but I don't know the answer.
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by SlowFreight
Either way, we'd all better enjoy those second-generation units (AND the blue/yellow paint) while they last. When SD50s and 60s are getting put out to pasture--and 40-2s are being cut up!--those 30s and 35s are certainly living on borrowed time.
Think about it: back in 1987, how many Class I's had units from the 1940s on their rosters? Certainly not many...and the CF7's certainly didn't look like they did in the 40's! (I'll stop waxing nostalgic )
Thanks for the picture!
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by BlockLine_4111
The state of California (aka republic of California) is simply way out of control.
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by uhaul
BlockLine_4111, you just confused me to the extreme.
I believe he was making social commentary on the vehicle emission/air quality standards legislation/laws/edicts (or what have you) that are in place in the state of California.
Up here in Oregon and Washington they have to clean the carbon out of anything they send into CA. I'm not sure what that entails but they keep certain consists for PASBAR's and EVEBAR's ''cause they're going to California. As stated before older locomotives are exempt. As long as a locomotive is on the roster I wouldnt suspect it to be banned from California.
What a long strange trip its been.
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by erielackawanna
Union Pacific at least, is now putting SD70ACes on many of the local haulers that used to have SD60Ms. I believe this is totally an air quality issue.
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Whats odd about those AC70's, it takes forever for them to idle down after you bring her to a stop. They arent smokers yet, but seems like there throwing alot more CO2 in the air then they should because of it. Maybe im just runnng them too hard.
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by erielackawanna
UPRR engineer wrote:Whats odd about those AC70's, it takes forever for them to idle down after you bring her to a stop. They arent smokers yet, but seems like there throwing alot more CO2 in the air then they should because of it. Maybe im just runnng them too hard.
There seems to be a disconnect between particle pollution laws and greenhouse emission laws. I read that the Pizza Oven MP15 that UP modified to capture soot and then burn it off, releases it as CO2.