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Discussion of the operations of CSX Transportation, from 1980 to the present. Official site can be found here: CSXT.COM.

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 #54230  by crazy_nip
 
TerryC wrote:Why did CSXT retire their 10 BQ23-7s arond the year 1995, if the B23-7s were retired 5-8 years later? Why convert the BQ23-7s into B units?
Ps. Are there any BQ23-7s left?

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1. because they were junk which could not lead and worn out.

2. because union crews refused to run them as leaders due to insufficient protection to the crew in case of collision, and the cramped quarters in the cab (too many seats)

3. no, scrapped

 #56516  by MR77100
 
The BQ23-7's lacked a nose on the front, which would have protected the crew in case of a collison. Only 3 received CSX paint, with each only receiving a different scheme. At least one was still running as a B unit in September, 1996. I'm not surprised they were all scrapped. They were hideous anyway and would not have won any locomotive beauty contests.

 #56703  by crazy_nip
 
furthermore, some of the b23-7's got rebuilt in the early to mid 80's and these did not, think they were amongst the last b23-7's ordered

 #56994  by Tadman
 
Why did they make 'em with that crazy cab setup?

 #57004  by octr202
 
The BQ-23-7 was an attempt, during the time when railroads were removing cabooses from fright trains, to find a place to put all the crew members that were often found on a freight train at the time. At the time, it was still common for freights to have as many as 5 crewmen (engineer, fireman, conductor, and front and rear brakemen). With a caboose, the rear brakeman and the conductor would be back there, but the advent of cabooseless trains displaced them up to the locomotives. Before long, however, new work rules quickly reduced the size of train crews, making the need for such large cabs almost as obsolete as the caboose itself.

As a side note, the BN also experimented with enlarged cabs -- a series a GP-50's were built with elongated cabs with additional seating in them.