by Adams_Umass_Boston
What about Brookville? The PCC's could be sent to them for complete overhaul if they really wanted to keep them.
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Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:What about Brookville? The PCC's could be sent to them for complete overhaul if they really wanted to keep them.As mentioned, Brookville's PCC-IIs are basically a new car in a 1947 body. SF Muni also sent its Market Street PCCs to Brookville for overhaul and rewiring work in recent years, but retained their original form without a "PCC-II" rebuild. The latter allows for continued operation with original historic character. (Market Street Railway expects the PCCs to last at least 80+ more years!)
The MBTA board will hear a request to pump a fresh $3 million into the Mattapan high-speed trolley line next week as state officials await a consultant’s report that will detail how much it costs to operate the line and lay out options for the future....
In the meantime, the request for new funds to maintain the line in its current form is an acknowledgement that any changes – in the form of new or restored trolleys, repurposed Green Line cars, or a more radical departure, like electric buses – are years away from implementation.
R36 Combine Coach wrote:SEPTA's PCC-II's have not worked out well from reports I have seen various places. I don't know if that is the fault of Brookville's implementation; or whether it was a bad design, or what. So the T should proceed cautiously if it decides to go that route. It may be that the low-tech route that SF has taken might be better, unless they learn from SEPTA/Brookville's mistakes and find a better way to do a "PCC-III".Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:What about Brookville? The PCC's could be sent to them for complete overhaul if they really wanted to keep them.As mentioned, Brookville's PCC-IIs are basically a new car in a 1947 body. SF Muni also sent its Market Street PCCs to Brookville for overhaul and rewiring work in recent years, but retained their original form without a "PCC-II" rebuild. The latter allows for continued operation with original historic character. (Market Street Railway expects the PCCs to last at least 80+ more years!)
jonnhrr wrote:That's good to know regarding Brookville. I guess there is always a learning curve with this kind of work.Definitely; there's always things that show up in testing that show up once you let something out into the production environment. Especially in a case like this, where you're taking something pre-existing and extensively modifying it.
typesix wrote:The SEPTA PCCs have a AC propulsion system/motors, like new LRVs. The only PCC tech are the body/frame and modern versions of B-3 trucks.
ExCon90 wrote:One of the engineers who worked on the project called them LRVs in sheep's clothing.The PCC-IIs have an similar dashboard to 1981 Kawasaki cars, but are (not?) compatible . (The latter were delivered with Westinghouse chopper control and DC motors).