• Amtrak Revenue Trains using tracks 1-4 @ New York Penn Station

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  by photobug56
 
I had the pleasure of a trip by Turbotrain out of GCT many years ago but had no idea that the 3rd rail shoes could do over and under. Wonderful train to ride on back then.
  by STrRedWolf
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm 1-The United Aircraft Turbotrains that ran NYG/NYP-BOS had third rail capability and shoes that could use
either over or under running third rail.

2-Tracks 1 to 4 at Penn Station used to be at least strictly for New Jersey local trains from what I remember.
Amtrak would only use them if it were deemed necessary. Those four stub-end tracks had no third rail.
(Seconding RJ in his previous post 7/25 on this page)
Before we derail the topic with the Turboliners, let me switch back with a question.

Refresh my memory, but aren't Track 1 to 4 are caternary powered, right?
  by rcthompson04
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 am
MACTRAXX wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm 1-The United Aircraft Turbotrains that ran NYG/NYP-BOS had third rail capability and shoes that could use
either over or under running third rail.

2-Tracks 1 to 4 at Penn Station used to be at least strictly for New Jersey local trains from what I remember.
Amtrak would only use them if it were deemed necessary. Those four stub-end tracks had no third rail.
(Seconding RJ in his previous post 7/25 on this page)
Before we derail the topic with the Turboliners, let me switch back with a question.

Refresh my memory, but aren't Track 1 to 4 are caternary powered, right?
Correct. It is why Keystones and NJT trains can use them.
  by NortheastTrainMan
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 am
MACTRAXX wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm 1-The United Aircraft Turbotrains that ran NYG/NYP-BOS had third rail capability and shoes that could use
either over or under running third rail.

2-Tracks 1 to 4 at Penn Station used to be at least strictly for New Jersey local trains from what I remember.
Amtrak would only use them if it were deemed necessary. Those four stub-end tracks had no third rail.
(Seconding RJ in his previous post 7/25 on this page)
Before we derail the topic with the Turboliners, let me switch back with a question.

Refresh my memory, but aren't Track 1 to 4 are caternary powered, right?
Don't wanna go Turbo around a sharp curve and derail the thread... ok that's a bad pun. Let me get back on track.

To answer your question, yes. I mentioned I took a Keystone that terminated there and Keystones that access NYP are electric powered. I'm not 100% sure on the far west (LIRR) side but the far east side has catenary.

Also nice photo @andrewjw
  by Union Tpke
 
ExCon90 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:49 pm The original intent was to have Tracks 1-4 lead into a third East River tube if it became necessary. Somewhere in Chris Baer's chronology on the PRRT&HS website is a memo from around 1937 reporting that a third tube will not be necessary after all; I think Track 1 has the beginning of a slight curve at the end allowing for that third tube.
Was the memo separate from the chronology? I didn't see anything about it in the chronology http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/Hagl ... _15_15.pdf for that year.
  by ExCon90
 
I think it would have to have been in the chronology, if not the memo itself then a condensed version, but it may not have been in 1937 -- I'll look some more.