Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned abandonment and designs that contemplated short turning at WNL.
That seems about as likely as Acela service on the New Canaan Branch.
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lordsigma12345 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:18 amCouple of things.jxzz wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:33 pm In latest CT2030 plan by Lamont governor, there is no mentioning of Connecticut River Bridge. There are 18 CT bridges, many rail related bridges in the plan that needs a huge dollar bill for repair or replacement. In fact, the whole CT tolling argument is to get the money for repair/replace bridges.The MRS line and bridge are owned by Amtrak. Amtrak is probably responsible to maintain the bridge in a minimal state of good repair. But as we are dealing with a line that only carries state supported Amtrak services and a state operated commuter rail line, a major capital improvement like renovating or replacing the bridge would likely have to be at least contributed to by the two states. I doubt pulling all the money from Amtrak’s federal capital grants would fly.
I would assume if the bridge is not in CT2030, it is either not so bad, no need of repair or none of CtDOT responsibility. If the bridge is MA or Amtrak responsibility, it is unlikely that CtDOT want to voluntarily pay up for the cost. One controversial bridge in CT2030 for tolling is the one in fairfield county where the bridge is almost within New York stateline and majority of users on the bridge is expected to be from Weschester NY. Some NY congressmen protested against CT for such tolling plan ripoff.
lordsigma12345 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:07 pmI guess I meant in terms of passenger it does not serve federally funded passenger rail as such as the states are going to have a roll in this.Not true. Commuter rail service everywhere receives significant grant funding from the Federal Transit Administration (FTA). Also Amtrak provides some support to each state route so there's technically some federal support there as well.
gokeefe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:17 pmI used bad terminology there. I meant exclusively federally funded trains like the long distance network. I do understand that the state corridors do receive some federal support from Amtrak's accounts and states can get federal grants for various things. But regardless the point is, the states have to take a leading role in a long term solution for this bridge - I'm sure it'll get some federal dollars but CT and MA Will have to cough up some cash.lordsigma12345 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:07 pmI guess I meant in terms of passenger it does not serve federally funded passenger rail as such as the states are going to have a roll in this.Not true. Commuter rail service everywhere receives significant grant funding from the Federal Transit Administration (FTA). Also Amtrak provides some support to each state route so there's technically some federal support there as well.
njt/mnrrbuff wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:45 am The Vermonter is like the "super express" train of the Springfield Line and yes, north of New Haven, it is a state sponsored train with three state partners. The fares are higher on the Vermonter than the other trains that run up and down the SPG Line for a reason.The Vermonter is not very express, but at least you pause in comfort.