• Amtrak NEC Delay and Service Disruption Thread

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  by NortheastTrainMan
 
I'm not 100% sure if this had to do with the power outages or not, but Amtrak Carolinian 79 opearated with a P42DC out of Philadelphia's 30th Street Station. A very rare move nowadays. I don't remember the last time a diesel locomotive powered a southbound revenue train out of Philly since the early 2000s I think.

The video is by MidAtlantic Transit Watch. It was uploaded on June 19, 2024, so this was likely this week.

  by NortheastTrainMan
 
To that point, I just saw a thread discussing diesels in Philly this week.
diesels-operating-phila-washington-t177093.html

If the mods have to move or delete my posts, I understand. Pardon the redundancy.
  by lensovet
 
I think the PHL to NH comment from Amtrak had little to do with reality and was simply a way to justify the mess to the public.

I was at Newark Penn for two hours on Thursday. Trains were running. The problem was that there were indeed power issues east of there as well as the brush fire in Secaucus. So trains could go no further than Newark. Some trains were turned there. A bunch of trains were terminated further south (like Philadelphia), but this was done to not clog up the corridor, rather than due to a literal inability for them to move. The only trains that were actually without power were a train east of Newark and an Acela in Queens (some of the reporting implied that the latter was due to a mechanical issue with the train, rather than a power failure).

The brush fire was put out before 5 pm. Power was restored by 5.30. Amtrak had their trains going rapidly as soon as power was restored and NJT converted all expresses to local trains.
  by lensovet
 
NortheastTrainMan wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:49 pm I'm not 100% sure if this had to do with the power outages or not, but Amtrak Carolinian 79 opearated with a P42DC out of Philadelphia's 30th Street Station.
Guaranteed this had more to do with what equipment was available to get the train moving rather than any real power issues.
  by STrRedWolf
 
NortheastTrainMan wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:49 pm I'm not 100% sure if this had to do with the power outages or not, but Amtrak Carolinian 79 opearated with a P42DC out of Philadelphia's 30th Street Station. A very rare move nowadays. I don't remember the last time a diesel locomotive powered a southbound revenue train out of Philly since the early 2000s I think.

The video is by MidAtlantic Transit Watch. It was uploaded on June 19, 2024, so this was likely this week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3oqagw5MRw
More likely they moved the engine swaps up from DC to Philly as there's switch work going on down in the tunnels.
  by west point
 
daybeers wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:13 pm What tunnel work?
Renewing the switches into each of the 1st street tunnel bores one at a time. So especially sometimes only one bore can be used between Union Station and Virginia Ave connection. That mostly weekends??
  by twropr
 
Does anyone know what caused the disruption in NY last night (6-24)
All we know is "overhead wire issues" and do not know whether it
was a power failure or train with faulty pantograph.
Andy
  by STrRedWolf
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:51 pm Trespasser strike shut down the NEC between WAS and New Carrolton (NCR) for an hour and change. Got word it's back up now. Going to assume the trespasser lived.
Hate to correct myself but Fox 5 DC says the guy died, and there was still some cleanup needed when they opened up per Reddit's "r/Amtrak" section.
  by NortheastTrainMan
 
On June 30, 2024, I was in Philly @ 30th Street, in line to board Keystone 666, it's about 1:15PM. An announcement was made for passengers who were already on Amtrak Regional 121, to re-board the train.

Now, Keystone 666 departs Philly at 1:30PM, 121 is scheduled to depart Philly near 12pm, 11:56am as per Amtrak's website. So, it's evident something was a tad off to say the least. A near 2 hour dwell time in Philly?

Any idea as to what happened? For it to arrive in Philly and take nearly two whole hours to depart? So bad that passengers were allowed to disembark the train, then re-board? Cab car issues? Signal or switch issues? The train did continue on though. I didn't see the front end, so I don't know if the cab car lead to DC, or if they put a locomotive on that end.

For those who don't know, Amtrak Regional 121 is a Sunday only train that operates with a cab car from NYP - WAS.

Attached are screenshots from RailRat.Net & Amtrak's site. As you can see, 121 should've been approaching Washington DC's Union Station by the time it departed 30th Street. Just curious as to what happened because that's bizarre and very unusual in my experience.
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  by STrRedWolf
 
NortheastTrainMan wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:34 pm On June 30, 2024, I was in Philly @ 30th Street, in line to board Keystone 666, it's about 1:15PM. An announcement was made for passengers who were already on Amtrak Regional 121, to re-board the train.

Now, Keystone 666 departs Philly at 1:30PM, 121 is scheduled to depart Philly near 12pm, 11:56am as per Amtrak's website. So, it's evident something was a tad off to say the least. A near 2 hour dwell time in Philly?

Any idea as to what happened? For it to arrive in Philly and take nearly two whole hours to depart? So bad that passengers were allowed to disembark the train, then re-board? Cab car issues? Signal or switch issues? The train did continue on though. I didn't see the front end, so I don't know if the cab car lead to DC, or if they put a locomotive on that end.

For those who don't know, Amtrak Regional 121 is a Sunday only train that operates with a cab car from NYP - WAS.

Attached are screenshots from RailRat.Net & Amtrak's site. As you can see, 121 should've been approaching Washington DC's Union Station by the time it departed 30th Street. Just curious as to what happened because that's bizarre and very unusual in my experience.
I would think they ether had a staffing issue or a security issue... and from what you describe, it may be the latter. I have to wonder if other trains were delayed...
  by CNJGeep
 
Cab car shopped in Philly. They ran the motor around and had immediate cab signal and PTC issues.
  by twropr
 
That morning (7/6) service interrupted on Hell Gate Line act catenary/signal issues.
Anyone have more information?
Andy
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