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lensovet wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:11 pm Oh, these are passenger evacuation crossovers, not rail tracks. Bummer.Still useful. Have a train on the unaffected track pick up the passengers evac'ing. Yeah, you're screwing up operations but they're already screwed up because something happened in a tube.
lensovet wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:09 pm That's a crossover every 850 feet. More expensive but should be very useful for recovering from issues like stuck trains etc.That 850 feet (1000 feet ) is both a national and international recognized emergency exit for passengers. It is actually 1000 feet. That is reason NJTransit cut back the tunnel length for restoration of service. 850 feet works great as a stopped train will more than likely stop at one of these crossovers. Not true for some short Amtrak trains.
STrRedWolf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:18 pmStill useful. Have a train on the unaffected track pick up the passengers evac'ing. Yeah, you're screwing up operations but they're already screwed up because something happened in a tube.They're for a true emergency evacuation where it is unsafe to stay on the disabled train. They likely will never be used, so I wouldn't be too worried about screwing up operations. For "normal" mechanical breakdowns/stuck trains/electrical problems, I'm sure they'll just send a diesel down and tow the train out, passengers and all.
ElectricTraction wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:57 pmYeah that worked out real well last weekSTrRedWolf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:18 pmStill useful. Have a train on the unaffected track pick up the passengers evac'ing. Yeah, you're screwing up operations but they're already screwed up because something happened in a tube.They're for a true emergency evacuation where it is unsafe to stay on the disabled train. They likely will never be used, so I wouldn't be too worried about screwing up operations. For "normal" mechanical breakdowns/stuck trains/electrical problems, I'm sure they'll just send a diesel down and tow the train out, passengers and all.
ElectricTraction wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:10 amNJT train was stuck under the river for over two hours with no power and no AC.lensovet wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:41 amYeah that worked out real well last weekWhat happened?
lensovet wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:11 pmNJT train was stuck under the river for over two hours with no power and no AC.They couldn't find a crew and locomotive anywhere to drag it out? Was there a power issue or just a crapped out locomotive? They also run their trains way underpowered. If they had one locomotive per 6 cars or EMUs, then they'd always have at least two locomotives, so a crapped out locomotive couldn't get the train stuck.
lensovet wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:47 pm locomotives hauling EMUs, that's a new one. maybe they should gold plate the rails too?It's probably because they didn't know if the caternary was damaged so better to inspect it with the P32 off the third rail if possible. If the caternary was broken, it wouldn't of mattered... and you'd have to haul in full-fledge diesel power.
https://www.nj.com/news/2024/08/it-took ... wrong.html
Apparently a P32 was sent down there to tow it out and failed. NJT claims it's because the third rail wasn't powerful enough to pull out an entire train + locomotive. Amtrak claims they couldn't couple successfully. No idea why they wouldn't send a Sprinter to begin with.
lensovet wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:47 pmlocomotives hauling EMUs, that's a new one. maybe they should gold plate the rails too?I think you misread my post. 1 loco per 6 passenger coaches OR use EMUs. Not locos pulling EMUs.
Apparently a P32 was sent down there to tow it out and failed. NJT claims it's because the third rail wasn't powerful enough to pull out an entire train + locomotive. Amtrak claims they couldn't couple successfully. No idea why they wouldn't send a Sprinter to begin with.P32 can only pull 7 cars. Not a great rescue/recovery locomotive. Should have sent a diesel.
