lensovet wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:40 pm
For crying out loud, I've both used the station and transited through it multiple times a week at one point. I know how it works. Fix the transfer, it will be a lot cheaper and more useful than building this loop.
Speaking of tapping away on their keyboards, are we going to shut down Hoboken once this is built? Because there sure as hell won't be enough commuters to justify keeping current Hoboken service levels AND also add more trains to run into Penn without a transfer.
Lets drop this all into perspective here.
First, the three(four) lines all are diesel. Unless you electrify all of them, they not going to go to Penn. They're going to Hoboken.
Second, from what I've seen, the loop is going to be just one track (no fly-overs/unders), it'll hit Secaucus Junction twice, and it's operation in the grand scheme of things will be complicated at best for any reasonable service. To be honest, I would think this would be more of a one-seat ride into Meadowlands, considering what's all going on over there.
Third, you still have what will happen after Gateway is built: 3 tubes at a time and I heard maybe some speed limits on the new tubes while they reconstruct the originals.
Put together, the loop isn't quite worth it in the next few years. A lot of things have to happen on the Main/Bergen/Pascack/Meadowlands to make it worth while.
Princeton Junction (Princeton via the Dinky) and New Brunswick are both college towns hosting national research universities, hospitals and Fortune 500 corporate offices and even headquarters. What they need is consistent, or even more, service. Not less.
But how frequent are they being served by NJ Transit? Amtrak's not the only one stopping there.