I'm bias but I'm hoping for the Albany - Boston service so I don't have to drive to go to Boston anymore for a day trip. I hate the Mass Turnpike Inland regionals (NHV - BOS) would be ok too.
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photobug56 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:09 pmThere's a competing idea that western Mass is closer to NY than Boston, economically and culturally. It's outdated now, but some remnants remain of the old river, canal and rail influence. Massachusetts did not have an east-west rail line as I understand it. The maps line were drawn from coast inward, east-west, like a French arpent. The communication in NY and New England was north-south.bostontrainguy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:15 pm From Amtrak Connects Us site:Lots of New Yorkers would live to get rid of Albany! The stench of a century or two of corruption and incompetence will never go away!
"Boston and Albany are two of the largest cities in New England"
Yikes, do you think Albany seceded while Cuomo was distracted? Anyway welcome to Red Sox Nation upper New York State )
Anyone who knows the musical and film 1776 well will know it's famous quote about our illustrious state (previously colony) government. Supposedly describing it for the era of our independence but a perfect description of what it has been for so long. And the scary part, when something does happen there, it's usually bad or at least ill conceived!
ExCon90 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:59 pm On 1: the connection with 30th St. existed at one time; it might be simply a matter of reinstalling a switch. The choke point is the single track between Zoo and the point (Falls?) where CSX diverges to cross the river en route to North Jersey; their trains off the High Line use it all the way from Zoo, while those using the old B&O route join it at Belmont. There are enough tracks between Belmont and Falls to enable some flexibility, but from Zoo to Belmont it's single track and destined to remain so because it goes through Fairmount Park. N&W trains off the High Line use it from Zoo to Abrams and beyond. It would require some delicate choreography to add a dozen or more daily scheduled passenger trains to the mix, and one burst air hose on a long freight would bollix up the passenger service for the rest of the day, with trains being out of place all over. One such delay a week could kill the service.Has passenger service ever ran on any of the lines east of Barbadoes Island? I would guess from Zoo to Belmont some passenger trains might have used it at one time.
rcthompson04 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:55 am I recommend everyone pull up these maps on a computer screen and look at them as the Reading map offers a lot of detail surprisingly. Here are the approximate locations of interest for that route:I'm surprised they aren't taking in account the study Phoenixville is doing, using the existing septa route to Norristown and then crossing the river.
1. 30th Street to the Harrisburg Line. - Noted there would need to be a connection via the High Line - Not necessarily very sophisticated infrastructure.
2. Norristown - The station isn't in Norristown, but Bridgeport. Was there ever passenger service to Bridgeport?
The spot they list on the map is here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bridg ... -75.345272
3. King of Prussia - This would be a new build station behind the Valley Forge Towers. There is a lot of land available for a big parking lot there: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bridg ... 75.3451838
4. Phoenixville - Looks like the old station would be used, which is what has been suggested in the past: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1-17+ ... 75.5104165
5. Pottstown - Same as Phoenixville; the old station would be used. There is decent parking at this spot: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Potts ... 75.6518593
6. Reading - Franklin Station would be used. Lots of parking nearby. https://www.google.com/maps?ll=40.33288 ... n&t=h&z=15
I think the infrastructure for this line could be broken down into a few things:
1. Connection between the 30th Street, High Line and NS Harrisburg Line. - Shouldn't be too difficult as grading already exists.
2. NS Harrisburg Line - Did this line ever host passenger service east of the Barbadoes Island Bridge before? What kind of infrastructure upgrades to the line itself would be needed.
3. Bridgeport - No station exists, but there is a decent amount of parking in town. You could probably get away with a smaller station here.
4. King of Prussia - This is probably going to require the most infrastructure spending. You are starting from scratch and likely the spot that would need the most parking. At least they want it near 422 and not near Abrams Yard.
5. Phoenixville - Single tracked at this location so only one platform might be needed, but there is terrible parking.
6. Pottstown - Probably just need to add platforms.
7. Reading - Same as Pottstown.