• Adirondack suspended starting 5/20/2024

  • Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.
Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by STrRedWolf
 
Engineer Spike wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:57 am It’s promising that CN has agreed to perform the required track rehabilitation. Many have made the point of CN not having much obligation to repair the line, since they are a foreign company. One must remember that CN has extensive holdings in the U.S. If someone in our government had some brains and some balls, then something could be done. I’m sure CN bellies up to the table when federal grants are being issued. If someone in charge of the grants reminded CN about not playing ball with Amtrak, as well as the result being the denial of the grant, then things might change.
That's exactly my point above. There's ways of making CN play ball, but they're all long-term plans.
  by Railjunkie
 
CN has never played ball when it comes to the CN Rouses Point Sub and Amtrak it was going on before I started and will be going on long after I retire. When I first started going up there in '98 there were 5? subdivisions that connected to the RPS now I think there is only one possibly two. Cantic and Brossard perhaps. We wont count the diamond at St Jean as that crosses with another RR. CN would be quite happy if Amtrak was not there to save the expense of maintaining the track to 50mph. CN knows it has Amtrak over a barrel and will continue to abuse that fact every chance it gets.
  by eolesen
 
There we go with talk of coercion and forcing quid pro quo's again....

You can't legally apply pressure or extra enforcement on the US subsidiaries of CN to try and get the Canadian subsidiary of CN to do something...

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  by ExCon90
 
Isn't all negotiation quid pro quo?You givre something to get something. The problem here is that Amtrak has nothing CN wants.
  by charlesriverbranch
 
So, how easy is it to get to Plattsburgh from either Burlington or Essex Junction?
  by Mackensen
 
charlesriverbranch wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:06 pm So, how easy is it to get to Plattsburgh from either Burlington or Essex Junction?
If you don't have a car, you'll want to go as far as Albany or Saratoga Springs and then take a bus. Trailways and Greyhound run buses up the west side of Lake Champlain and serve Plattsburgh. There are some buses that go north from Burlington but they serve Montreal. I'm not aware of any cross-lake service.
  by Railjunkie
 
charlesriverbranch wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:06 pm So, how easy is it to get to Plattsburgh from either Burlington or Essex Junction?
Schedules for ferries, all weather service. Charlotte to Plattsburg rode these many times as a kid had relatives that lived in the middle of nowhere VT population 1500 :-D

https://ferries.com/
  by Jeff Smith
 
Canada declares war (not really) :-D : https://www.wcax.com/2024/06/14/canadia ... utType=amp
Canadian rail officials blame Amtrak for Adirondack line suspensions

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But Friday, CN said they’re open all summer during maintenance and their trains are still running. They said Amtrak decided to suspend the service.

In a statement, a spokesperson for CN said: “CN’s Rouse Point Subdivision, which hosts Amtrak’s Adirondack service, is open for freight and passenger rail operations and will remain open all summer and fall while undergoing maintenance. CN continues to operate three to five freight trains daily over this line, and did so as recently as yesterday. Amtrak unilaterally decided to suspend its passenger service between Saratoga Springs and Montreal between May 20 and September 9 without consultation with CN.”