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Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:06 pm
by daybeers
I'm sure this map will have to be updated :) https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 393805&z=8

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:09 am
by mcgrath618
daybeers wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:06 pm I'm sure this map will have to be updated :) https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 393805&z=8
Definitely needs some updating. My Acela hit 135 en route from Baltimore to Philly. That map shows the whole section with a max of 125.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:11 am
by Matt Johnson
Northern Maryland and up to Newark, DE has been 130 with a short stretch of 135 for many years.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:25 pm
by The EGE
daybeers wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:06 pm I'm sure this map will have to be updated :) https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 393805&z=8
Yeah, I'll update that someday if I get a look at a recent ETT. I think I made it using a 2012 copy.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 am
by daybeers
The EGE wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:25 pm
daybeers wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:06 pm I'm sure this map will have to be updated :) https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 393805&z=8
Yeah, I'll update that someday if I get a look at a recent ETT. I think I made it using a 2012 copy.
Cool!

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:38 am
by Fan Railer
The EGE wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:25 pm
daybeers wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:06 pm I'm sure this map will have to be updated :) https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 393805&z=8
Yeah, I'll update that someday if I get a look at a recent ETT. I think I made it using a 2012 copy.
PM me

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:39 pm
by gokeefe
Fan Railer wrote:
Matt Johnson wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:56 pm Great news regarding Acela II. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that they spent all that money putting up new constant tension catenary in the Princeton Junction area before figuring that out, haha!
Probably still a good investment. Constant tension still provides better performance through a wider variety of temperatures vs the standard catenary setup.

On a different note, over in the Disposition thread, the question was posed about how much extra mileage would be rated for 160/150 with the new trainsets, so I broke out the employee timetable and did some math:

Current 150 Territory:
[17.4] MP 154.3 to MP 171.7 (Kingston to Davisville)
[5.6] MP 174.5 to MP 180.1 (TF Green area)
[10.5] MP 194.5 to MP 205 (Attleboro to Mansfield)

Total: 33.5 miles

Future 150/160 Territory (inclusive of above):
[22.9] MP 32.8 to MP 55.7 (COUNTY to HAM)
[21.3] MP 29.7 to MP 51.0 (RAGAN to BACON)
[6.3] MP 51.0 to MP 57.3 (BACON to PRINCE)*
[13.5] MP 205.0 to MP 218.5 (Mansfield to RTE 128)*

*Currently 130 mph (non-curve restriction), may only upgrade to 145 mph or 150 mph.

Total (inclusive of current 150 territory): 97.5 miles (77.7 miles without * territories)
Pretty stunning development with regards to speeds. Totally unexpected. I would imagine this potential upgrade will require some high speed trial runs across affected mileage. This has the potential for *major* effects on Amtrak's market share over the next 20 years in the NEC air-rail service basket.

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Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:25 pm
by Fan Railer
Trainset 2 is running back up to Boston for more testing this week. Should return to Philly by the end of the week.


Attached are a few close-ups of the pantograph modifications.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:31 pm
by photobug56
Are the changes helping?

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:26 am
by Fan Railer
Apparently, they flipped the pan as they were going through MILL just past midnight; train will need repairs now.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:36 am
by photobug56
Ouch! But better now than later!

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:23 pm
by NeedhamLine
Just saw Avelia trainset 2 leaving South Station for Southhampton St around 9 pm ET. First time seeing it, a couple of thoughts:

- the nose is much more streamlined than the AX-1 sets… makes a really nice impression in the station

- SO much quieter than the AX-1 sets, which always seem to put the blowers on “max” before leaving. About as loud as a Type 8 leaving a station.

Can’t wait to see more of these in person!

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:58 pm
by Arlington
Have the trainsets continued to be delivered (completed-except-for-the-pantograph-mods)? OR are there still supply chain problems?

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:31 pm
by rcthompson04
One set continues to hang around Philadelphia. It seems to move around as it changes the track it is sitting on in the Penn Coach Yard.

Re: Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

PostPosted:Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:46 am
by 8th Notch
Still on target for Acela 23 now, the thing still has a boatload of problems being worked out…