• 2023 Cannonball Season - New York Penn to the Hamptons and Montauk

  • Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.
Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

Moderator: Liquidcamphor

  by MACTRAXX
 
Krispy - Good reply read about Montauk and other East End venues "back in the day"...
I remember back in the 70s and 80s Montauk was more of a family resort during the summer months that was
once more affordable to middle class vacationers than other South Fork Hamptons communities...

One example is former neighbors of mine having an annual camping timeshare at Hither Hills State Park in the 70s
scheduling a vacation around the week that would be assigned to them by NYS Parks each year...

I remember traveling to Montauk for the first time back in the mid 70s and remember going to Gosman's Dock
along with the beach and the Lighthouse with my relatives - back then not yet open to the public.

I found this website about Fire Island - a description of the various towns along with a map showing ferry
access from Bay Shore, Sayville and Patchogue:
www.fireisland.com
As most know specific FI towns have a target demographic clientele for tourists and others...

To be continued...MACTRAXX
  by bellstbarn
 
The Cannonball, as in recent years, is scheduled to depart Penn Station at 4:07 and reach Westhampton at 5:41, 94 minutes later. Milepost 27 is at Seaford, but that is measured from Long Island City. Today, when will I see the Cannonball?
Locomotive 520 headed it through Seaford at 4:52, and Train Time showed it making two stops at Westhampton 5:41-5:45. Great!
  by gamer4616
 
Train 14, the direct train from Penn to Montauk that runs on summer Thursdays is known as the "Musketball". Today is the first time I've ever heard of this. This was referenced twice today by the LIRR on an internal messaging system.
  by MACTRAXX
 
Gamer - Interesting new term "Musketball" being used for LIRR Thursday-only Train #14 to Montauk...
This train leaves Penn Station at 4:07 PM on a similar schedule to the Friday Cannonball (Train #16):
5:39 PM - Westhampton
5:59 PM - Southampton
6:07 PM - Bridgehampton
6:17 PM - East Hampton
6:38 PM - Montauk
The noticeable difference is faster running time - arriving Montauk ten minutes earlier than the
Friday Cannonball - not having to make double stops at intermediate stations with a shorter consist...
The train name "Musketball" is something that LIRR historians should take a close look at...MACTRAXX
  by bellstbarn
 
Yesterday, August 6, 2023. I visited Bay Shore to observe westbound boarding. Half the numbers before 2018. No shoving to board Scoot 6461 at 4:58. It was a good day for the beach. The uneven bricks underfoot near the station made walking around risky for this old railfan.
  by MACTRAXX
 
Steve - AFAIK the term "MUSKETBALL" has not designated any LIRR Montauk or East End train previously...
This would be interesting to see what the origin was - someone had to come up with this...

The off-season Friday-only Train #14 Penn Station to Montauk runs on this schedule albeit with a shorter consist...
September can be a good time to visit the East End in the last days of Summer...The Autumnal Equinox is Saturday
the 23rd this year...unfortunately at the time of this post what may become Tropical Storm Ophelia may turn the
upcoming weekend into a bit of a wash-out on Long Island and for that matter much of the Northeast...MACTRAXX
  by workextra
 
Musketball is a slang term the employees call the off season Fridays and seasonal Thursdays only cannonball.
This train runs with a smaller consist 6-8 cars compared to 12 cars on the main event cannonball Fridays in season.
It’s also been referred to as the miniball by some.
The term Muaketball seems to be the one the majority uses. So it’s the semi official term. It’s an internal thing and not advertised to the public as it’s just a “regular” DM, nothing special.

The name comes From the consist size.
The bigger train being historically named cannon ball. (Large projectile)
The smaller consist 6-8 cars has been lovingly nicknamed the “musketball” (smaller projectile)
Hope this clarifies it.

Truthfully the modern era cannonball is an embarrassment and doesn’t even deserve the name publicly. It’s a DM with 4 extra cars added.

Is the employees who’s still have pride in the line who care to put the drumhead up. And when they go, the drumhead too will fall by the wayside.

FWIW. If you want to see a special train. (Other than C3s) Write to your NYS Assemblyman, MTA, and governors office to express your demands that LIRR run a legit cannonball with “proper” equipment for an all reserve train.
They can do it. Don’t believe the lies.
  by andegold
 
Are the next generation dual modes going to be more or less identical across all three operators? Once new coaches are delivered to Amtrak would they have enough capacity to provide equipment for two or three roundtrips per weekend?
  by edflyerssn007
 
workextra wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:11 pm Musketball is a slang term the employees call the off season Fridays and seasonal Thursdays only cannonball.
This train runs with a smaller consist 6-8 cars compared to 12 cars on the main event cannonball Fridays in season.
It’s also been referred to as the miniball by some.
The term Muaketball seems to be the one the majority uses. So it’s the semi official term. It’s an internal thing and not advertised to the public as it’s just a “regular” DM, nothing special.

The name comes From the consist size.
The bigger train being historically named cannon ball. (Large projectile)
The smaller consist 6-8 cars has been lovingly nicknamed the “musketball” (smaller projectile)
Hope this clarifies it.

Truthfully the modern era cannonball is an embarrassment and doesn’t even deserve the name publicly. It’s a DM with 4 extra cars added.

Is the employees who’s still have pride in the line who care to put the drumhead up. And when they go, the drumhead too will fall by the wayside.

FWIW. If you want to see a special train. (Other than C3s) Write to your NYS Assemblyman, MTA, and governors office to express your demands that LIRR run a legit cannonball with “proper” equipment for an all reserve train.
They can do it. Don’t believe the lies.
I'd love for the LIRR to contract some of the PV equipment we see wandering the rails behind certain Amtrak trains. I'm reasonably sure there's enough stuff floating around that could make a proper summer consist. Make it expensive, exclusive, and luxurious and the LIRR would print money.

Honestly, even stealing a Amtrak Empire set and running that with it's better seats would also print money.
  by MACTRAXX
 
Everyone - I have created a topic for the 2024 Cannonball Season that should be pinned up top in this position...

Let's post our thoughts and observations on the current Summer 2024 East End season where they should be...

As example expect this current weekend June 15-16, 2024 to be a busy one for any outdoor venue with perfect
early Summer weather for both days - The Summer Solstice this year is on Thursday June 20th - the longest day
of 2024 for those unaware...The next chance of any significant rain on LI (as of my post) is Friday June 21...

This should be a busy weekend for the LIRR and all regional transportation modes...MACTRAXX