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Re: SD45/F45/SDP45/SDF45/SD45T/SD45X SERIES FORUM

Post by SOU2645 »

CSX 8974 has a 16 cylinder engine now. And all six NS units are mechanically SD40-2's - tho still classed as SD45-2. 1701 already had a 16 cylinder 645 (put in by CR) the rest were done by NS. CSX 8973 is now retired to the REDI center in Atlanta. CSXT has 2 "true" SD45-2's left 8954 and the HLS1 (ex 8969).
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SD-45 hihoods

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Just learned that the 680 (mrl 680 ex-grs, exx-nw) was parted out and then cut up. With ST 681 down and presumably done for good, are there any operable hihood sd-45's left anywhere?

What about inoperable?

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Re: SD45/F45/SDP45/SDF45/SD45T/SD45X SERIES FORUM

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Are there still any ex-SP/DRGW SD45T-2s running for any railroad or leasing company? How about preserved?
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Re: SD-45 hihoods

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Kevin: N&W Bicentennial SD45 #1776 is at the Virginia Transportation Museum in Roanoke, VA. See http://www.vmt.org/n&w45Diesel1776.html for a photo. I don't know of any others intact or operational.

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Re: SD-45 hihoods

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thnks for the reply, thats a good photo :-D
Good to know that the hihood sd-45 is not completely gone :-D

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Re: SD-45 hihoods

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My recollection is that almost all the Bicentennial units on major railroads were repainted into standard livery very soon after 1976. Did Norfolk & Western fail to do this, or was the 1776 repainted back into bicentennial livery when donated to the museum?

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Re: SD-45 hihoods

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Answer to my last question: repainted twice. George Elwood's "Fallen Flags" railphoto site (go to the Norfolk & Western Index, then to the Diesel Locomotive sub-index) has photos of this unit in Bicentennial colors from 1974-1976, one in black from the 1980s, and a final photo at the museum in Bicentennial colors from the early 2000s.
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My recollection is that this was the second Bicentennial unit for a Class-1 railroad (after SCL's U36B 1776). I think that it was repainted by N&W, and the Bicentennial color scheme is much simpler (at the risk of offending N&W loyalists I would say "cruder") than that on the SCL unit, which was delivered in Bicentennial colors by GE.

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Re: SD-45 hihoods

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Allen Hazen wrote:My recollection is that almost all the Bicentennial units on major railroads were repainted into standard livery very soon after 1976.
Probably most of them, yes..
but there is one glaring exception! :)
D&H 1976, painted in its bicentennial scheme in 1975,
is now in its 34th year without a full repaint.

photo from 1976:
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/0 ... 375879.jpg

photo from 2006:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/ ... llsize.jpg

the blue was touched up and given a new coat..but the basic scheme, apart from the lettering,
remains intact..

Today the unit is operating as Tioga Central 506 out of Wellsboro, PA.

ok..Getting back to the high-hood SD45's..
Only one survivor on Guilford?
all others are known scrapped?

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Re: SD-45 hihoods

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and the one on guilford is oos at waterville. Its been in the shop for about a month? and is most likely being parted out :(

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SD45"Elephant ears"

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How many of thease units were built with elephant ears and for what railroads did they operate?

Pictures would be apriciated.
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Re: SD45"Elephant ears"

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I don't think any SD45s were "built" with elephant ear radiator shrouds. The elephant ears were added later as an early 70s experiment between Southern Pacific and EMD to determine the benefit of the radiators drawing in air from closer to the ground, where it would be cooler in tunnels, like the "tunnel motor" SD45T-2 and SD40T-2. Only Southern Pacific locomotives had elephant ears, and they only had them for a few years before they were removed. According to http://espee.railfan.net/spsd45t-1.html (where there are pictures) there were 12, maybe 13 SP SD45s with elephant ears, out of over 300 total on SP. I'm not sure if the experiment led to the tunnel motor design, or if it was a later attempt to retrofit existing locomotives to get the tunnel motor benefits. In any case, the elephant ears were apparently decided to not be worth it.

Southern Pacific's 4 GP40Xs were built with elephant ears, and were the only locomotives delivered new with them. The elephant ears were later removed from them as well.

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Re: SD45"Elephant ears"

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I see... Well thanks for the info. Really. Thanks.
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Re: SD45"Elephant ears"

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There were three SD45X units that also had elephant ears for a short time in 1970-71 during testing in the Sierra Nevadas. See http://espee.railfan.net/spsd45x.html . :wink:
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Re: SD45"Elephant ears"

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I believe CP Rail tried the "elephant ears" on some SD40-2's as well.
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Re: SD45"Elephant ears"

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WHAT!? Got any pictures?
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