Surviving PC locomotives.

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Post by PRRGuy » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:06 pm

On the page, you spelled "surviving" wrong :wink:

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Post by scottychaos » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:39 pm

PRRGuy wrote:On the page, you spelled "surviving" wrong :wink:
I did?
where?

I just scanned the page, and the word is on there several times, but I dont see it misspelled anywhere.

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Post by PRRGuy » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:45 pm

Way on the bottom where is says "1,005 surviving units"

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Post by scottychaos » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:29 pm

PRRGuy wrote:Way on the bottom where is says "1,005 surviving units"
ummm..thats the correct spelling.. :wink:

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Post by scottychaos » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:33 pm

I just noticed something quite odd about the survivors list!

Is it REALLY possible that there is not ONE single surviving PRR or NYC EMD F-unit?!

I suppose its technically possible..There are no known surviving LV, DL&W or Erie F-units..but wow..the PRR and NYC F-unit fleet was truly massive..
and there are 7 NYC and 16 PRR surviving E-units!
it just seems so unlikely there would not be one single F out there anymore!

maybe some will still turn up! :-D

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Post by PRRGuy » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:10 pm

Well, anythings possible..don't forget that Baldwin shark B unit was still around after all those years. It was later scrapped, however it was converted to a generator on a trailor frame.

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Post by PRRGuy » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:05 pm

MNAR 3898 - PC 7905

LTEX 828 - NYC 9643 (SW900)

GMTX 2661 - PC 7671

Conn. Southern RR 6281- PC 6231 (SD-40)

Patapasco & Back Rivers RR 904 - IHB 8873/PC 8873 (SW7)

SWP 2003- PC 7555/NH 1225 (GP11)


South Buffalo

1513 - PC 9546
1509 - PC 9226
1508 - PC 9513

Brandywine Valley RR

BVRY 8207 (NW2) IHB 8715/PC 8907:2
BVRY 8206:2 (SW7) PRR 9385

York Railroad Co
99 (SW9) - NYC 8990

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Post by PRRGuy » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:59 am

BNSF 2000- NYC 3055
BNSF 2003 - PC 3144
BNSF 2006 - PC 3105
BNSF 2007 - PC 3139
BNSF 2008 - PC 3167
BNSF 2009 - PC 3120
BNSF 2018 - PC 3115
BNSF 2019 - NYC 3038
BNSF 2028 - PC 7704

Update PRR 2257 - NOW BNSF 2028

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Post by PRRGuy » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:54 pm

Nyc 3076- HLCX 2076

NYC 3082- HLCX 3082

NYC 3091- hlcx 3091

NYC 3092- BPRR 3107

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Post by Matt Langworthy » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:53 pm

One thing I find odd is this: where did all Alco S-1, S-2, S-3 and S-4 switchers go? The New York Central apparently had vast fleets of them: http://www.thedieselshop.us/NYC.HTML

Ditto for the Pennsy. I can't imagine all of them went to the scrapper!

So far, Scot has found just 1 S-4 and a pair of S-1s. Let's help him find the rest of them!

P.S. Scot, your site continues to amaze me!
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Post by lvrr325 » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:45 pm

scottychaos wrote:I just noticed something quite odd about the survivors list!

Is it REALLY possible that there is not ONE single surviving PRR or NYC EMD F-unit?!

I suppose its technically possible..There are no known surviving LV, DL&W or Erie F-units..but wow..the PRR and NYC F-unit fleet was truly massive..
and there are 7 NYC and 16 PRR surviving E-units!
it just seems so unlikely there would not be one single F out there anymore!

maybe some will still turn up! :-D

Scot

The only way they might still be out there is if any escaped being traded in as new power. EMD particularly made sure anything traded in, went to Pielet Bros. (or however you spell their name) and was cut up.

PRR and PC bought a lot of other units for trade-ins, a couple of the LV F-units were traded in on PRR C628's, and they bought some D&RGW F's to use as trades, but some of them were in good enough shape they put them in serivce and used some of their own junkers as trades instead. The NYC bought those dead NYO&W FT's about 1968 to trade in on new power, too. And PC particularly bought a huge number of GP38, 38-2 and GP40 units in the early 70s. There were not very many F's left by 1976, and they were pretty beat up. I would imagine you can track dispositions of those that remained using X2200 South -

I will agree, you can't completely rule it out, but if any remain they're well hidden and forgotten. Just like that Shark B - which was actually one of the three the PRR rebuilt and installed Alco 251 prime movers in.

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Post by scottychaos » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:30 am

Thanks for all the continued updates! :P
I will update the list soon..

I need some help with the FL9 list..
I recieved an email awhile back that said some of the FL9's I have listed as surviving are actually scrapped..
but now I cant find that email! :(
sorry..

and..I have some duplicate numbers for the original New Haven number,
for example, check out the listings for PC 5007 and PC 5010:

http://gold.mylargescale.com/Scottychao ... /index.htm

Both are listed as originally being NH 2010!
obviously it makes sense that PC 5010 was NH 2010, but why is the current ConnDot 2026 said to be originally NH 2010?
obviously something wrong there somewhere..

there are also two different locos listed as being originally NH 2020, and NH 2003..and probably more..

so the FL9 list has problems! :wink:
can anyone help straighten it out?

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Post by PRRGuy » Thu May 03, 2007 6:43 pm

Prr 6063 (SD-40) - EMDX 2821 (SD-40-2)
Prr 6076 (SD-40) - EMDX 2822 (SD-40-2)
Prr 6093 (SD-40) - CSX 8879 (SD-40-2)
Prr 6098 (SD-40) - NS 3442 (SD-40-2)
Prr 6099 (SD-40) - CSX 8877 (SD-40-2)

PC 6246 (SD-40) - FURX 3027
PC 6261 (SD-40) - FURX 3023
PC 6280 (SD-40) - HLCX 6327

PRR 2249 (GP-30) - WMSR 501
*Delete PRR 2262 from the GP-30 list as it's a GP-35*

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Post by PRRGuy » Sun May 06, 2007 11:39 pm

NYC 6050 (GP9) - RCRY 7563 (GP-10)
NYC 6021 (GP9) - CGIX 7526 (GP-10) Plains, KS
NYC 5958 (GP9) - GNRR 7529 (GP-10)
NYC 6006 (GP9) - KRR 1001
NYC 6009 (GP9) - KRR 1002
OHCR 7574 - PRR 7262

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Post by PRRGuy » Tue May 08, 2007 10:28 pm

Nee NYC 5817-ex NYC/PC/CR 5672- ex P&S 10 (GP7) ----MALX 1501
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 45358b3b40


NYC 5601- PC/CR 5601/ CNW 4439/SO 103/FWWR 103
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=314523

PC 6249 (SD40) /CR 806/BRC 570 SD-40-3 Phttp://www.beltrailway.com/imagescurrentfleet/brc570.JPGC/CR

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