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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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 #1511903  by rcthompson04
 
JeffK wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:50 pm
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm
rcthompson04 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:31 pmMy take on that is have more commuter rail if you want more Americans building it.
Make America Build Again: instead of funding assembly plants that are subsidiaries of foreign companies with Buy America Act guidelines, put bigger investments in domestic companies that could invest in such capabilities. Pullman, Budd and St. Louis once exported their cars over the world too.
AMEN!!
Agree. The one reason passenger rail is dominated by foreign players is that we are a relatively small market by comparison.
 #1511910  by ExCon90
 
True--if consistent and predictable demand exists, American companies will be created to meet it. But they can't survive as pop-ups that disappear when an order is completed and there aren't any more in the pipeline.
 #1511928  by Backshophoss
 
CRRC's attempts at getting orders shook up the major freight car builders enough to lobby the Congress Critters to ban CRRC from getting
Federal $$$ backed car orders,other then SEPTA's order,that was done before Jan 2019,CRRC cannot bid on any projects with Fed $$$$$
CTA and MBTA are local funded projects that CRRC had the "winning" bid.
 #1518741  by NorthPennLimited
 
There hasn’t been much activity on SEPTA’s Regional Rail Service Improvement website. The last entry on the “Fleet” page mentions the farewell to the AEM-7 trip.

Is SEPTA still expecting delivery of the first multi level coach in September 2020?

Are the costs allocated for production fixed into the delivery price to SEPTA, or will the Chinese import tariffs increase the price of these cars?
 #1518765  by Silverliner II
 
NorthPennLimited wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:11 pm Is SEPTA still expecting delivery of the first multi level coach in September 2020?
Delayed a few months by mutual agreement between SEPTA and CRRC due to the welding issues mentioned above.
 #1521003  by Silverliner II
 
mcgrath618 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:53 pm I’ve just been informed that the CRRC Orange Line trains in Boston have been pulled due to the doors opening in transit.
There were several similar incidents on the Broad Street Line when the Kawasaki cars were brand new. Modifications were made fairly quickly to the locking systems, and they rolled on.
mcgrath618 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:53 pm SEPTA’s been awfully quiet about their order...
There really is nothing to tell. There's been a mutual agreement to delay delivery of the pilot cars by a few months over welding improvements. Aside from that, it's just been normal business...
 #1521836  by WashingtonPark
 
Here's something to ponder.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/crrc-chin ... 91007.html

Fair Use: The legislation would bar federal funding for public rail car purchases from Chinese state-owned enterprises. The law, which is endorsed by the White House, would not ban CRRC from doing business in the United States, but because public transit agencies can’t afford expensive car purchases without federal help, CRRC’s U.S. operations would struggle to remain viable. SEPTA, for example, relied on $40 million in federal money to make its purchase.
 #1521858  by MACTRAXX
 
WP: Do not forget the Inquirer "paywall" in your link...MACTRAXX
 #1521906  by JeffK
 
mcgrath618 wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:31 pm The article says they should be arriving next year, which is interesting. I thought it wasn't until 2021. Thank god.
The order's supposed to be completed in early '21, which may be what you were thinking of.
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