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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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 #1492987  by JeffK
 
JimBoylan wrote:The old freight motor 401 and the last of those old passenger cars 46, which could also be used as a locomotive, are in the Electric City Trolley Museum and Station in Scranton, Pa
46 on Penn's Landing: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... anding.jpg
401 at 69th St. (in 1978, according to the title) http://www.ectma.org/401html.html
 #1493015  by mcgrath618
 
JeffK wrote:
JimBoylan wrote:The old freight motor 401 and the last of those old passenger cars 46, which could also be used as a locomotive, are in the Electric City Trolley Museum and Station in Scranton, Pa
46 on Penn's Landing: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... anding.jpg
401 at 69th St. (in 1978, according to the title) http://www.ectma.org/401html.html
We're straying a bit here, but why was 46 anywhere near Penn's Landing? I didn't think P&W had trackage over there.
 #1493108  by mm670
 
mcgrath618 wrote:
JeffK wrote:
JimBoylan wrote:The old freight motor 401 and the last of those old passenger cars 46, which could also be used as a locomotive, are in the Electric City Trolley Museum and Station in Scranton, Pa
46 on Penn's Landing: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... anding.jpg
401 at 69th St. (in 1978, according to the title) http://www.ectma.org/401html.html
We're straying a bit here, but why was 46 anywhere near Penn's Landing? I didn't think P&W had trackage over there.
From 1982 to 1996, the Buckingham Valley Trolley Association operated the Penn’s Landing trolley on the “Philadelphia Belt Line Railroad” on Columbus Boulevard from the Ben Franklin Bridge to Fitzwater Street. See http://planphilly.com/articles/2009/11/24/trolley" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; from November 24, 2009. Also see viewtopic.php?f=72&t=164394" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; from January 4, 2017.
Still photos at https://philadelphiaareatraction.com/pe ... land_e.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Car 26, 46 and 80) posted on Philadelphia Area Traction.
More photos at http://www.trainweb.org/phillynrhs/RPOTW030601.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Car 76 and 80) posted June 2003 on the Philadelphia Chapter of the National Railway Historical Society.
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YouTube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huLUCYkk2S0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Car 26-Hog Island car and 80) posted September 17, 2013.
YouTube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbDOpu9F7IU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Car 76 and 80) posted May 21, 2011.
 #1493170  by JeffK
 
At the risk of going farther OT (Alex, slap my hand if appropriate :) ), a few more factoids: The Belt Line was standard gauge so BVT had to swap out the PA-gauge trucks on the Red Arrow cars. #80 gained a bit of additional fame from a supporting role in a TV commercial. The car was sprayed top to bottom with a sky-blue coating and glided past in the background. Unfortunately I can't find a video but I remember it somewhat resembled a phantom.

I'm not sure what the coating was except that this was before wraps become widespread. Several months later I made my own fan-day at the BVT and found a few blue remnants caught in places like window channels, etc.
 #1493220  by JeffK
 
Alex - thanks for splitting these comments into their own thread.
 #1493246  by BuddCar711
 
JeffK wrote:At the risk of going farther OT (Alex, slap my hand if appropriate :) ), a few more factoids: The Belt Line was standard gauge so BVT had to swap out the PA-gauge trucks on the Red Arrow cars. #80 gained a bit of additional fame from a supporting role in a TV commercial. The car was sprayed top to bottom with a sky-blue coating and glided past in the background. Unfortunately I can't find a video but I remember it somewhat resembled a phantom.

I'm not sure what the coating was except that this was before wraps become widespread. Several months later I made my own fan-day at the BVT and found a few blue remnants caught in places like window channels, etc.
Is this it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWs0klk2UU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 #1493279  by ExCon90
 
That's it -- at 0:07. Imagine anybody going to that expense for a few seconds of a commercial. I assume BVT got a complete repaint job as part of the deal.
 #1493281  by JeffK
 
BuddCar711 wrote: Is this it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWs0klk2UU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
YES! Thank you for finding it!

My (very rusty) memory is that there may have been a second ad that offered a longer clip of #80, but my search of 1980s-vintage Hyundai commercials came up empty.
Last edited by JeffK on Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
 #1493295  by BuddCar711
 
JeffK wrote:My (very rusty) memory is that there may have been a second ad that offered a longer clip of #80, but my search of 1980s-vintage Hyundai commercials came up empty.
BTW, did you noticed the SL-IV at the beginning of the commercial?
 #1493335  by JeffK
 
BuddCar711 wrote:BTW, did you noticed the SL-IV at the beginning of the commercial?
Definitely. I wonder if the commercial was shown outside of the Philly area and if so, how many people recognized the SEPTA logo.

Before we go OT again, there's a lot more at an earlier thread:
 #1493384  by MACTRAXX
 
JeffK wrote:
BuddCar711 wrote:BTW, did you noticed the SL-IV at the beginning of the commercial?
Definitely. I wonder if the commercial was shown outside of the Philly area and if so, how many people recognized the SEPTA logo.

Before we go OT again, there's a lot more at an earlier thread:
Jeff:

1-Yes-this Hyundai commercial was shown outside Philadelphia. New York TV stations showed this
very same advertisement with the SEPTA RRD train - that paralleling roadway was along the West
Trenton Line(?). The transit bus shown in the commercial I recognize to be a Gillig Phantom (with
unfamiliar color scheme-definitely not SEPTA) and the speaking voice was the late Fred Gwynne.
Fred Gwynne was a character actor most remembered for playing Herman Munster in the 60s TV
show "The Munsters"; Officer Muldoon in "Car 54" and the southern judge in the 1992 movie "My
Cousin Vinnie" who would also do voice work - the Hyundai commercial was a good example.

I have a 1985 memory concerning Hyundai vehicles I will add to this: Back in September 1985 I
spent most of that month traveling by train in Ontario and Quebec, Canada with the bulk of that
riding on a 14 day Via Rail Canada Corridor Pass. In those travels I was noticing a vehicle name
that I have not seen previously which was Hyundai...I later did find that Hyundai cars were sold
in Canada before they entered the US market and thanks to another commercial during that
same time period Hyundai was indeed the top-selling import car in Canada when they were
first sold in the US back in the Fall of 1985 for the 1986 model year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Company" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Back to topic: I never realized the older trolley vehicle in that same commercial was from BVTA
and was repainted specifically to be used in this commercial. They probably used a temporary
water-based paint that could be easily removed with a thorough cleaning to not damage the
historic color scheme underneath. Today something like this would be of a removable "wrap".

MACTRAXX
 #1493468  by JimBoylan
 
The blue paint was a removable flexible maybe rubber based paint that didn't stick well to other paint and could be peeled off in large sheets. Unfortunately, it did stick to bare metal and get caught in cracks. Next time, Penn's landing wanted a repaint afterwards.

Red Arrow car 80 ran on standard gauge rapid transit trucks from Shaker Heights Rapid Transit 27, which had been Cleveland Rwys. 1227. The body went to the Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, Me., where it has been restored to original condition on streetcar trucks.
Red Arrow 26 ran on standard gauge trucks from an old Boston Elevated Rwy. streetcar.
The other equipment that ran on Delaware Ave. was already standard gauge.