mcgrath618 wrote:As I sit in 30th st waiting for my train, I wonder why they’ve installed kiosks past the turnstiles? Do I not understand how this works?Honestly, I appreciate it. Get your next month or your reload while waiting for the train.
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mcgrath618 wrote:As I sit in 30th st waiting for my train, I wonder why they’ve installed kiosks past the turnstiles? Do I not understand how this works?Honestly, I appreciate it. Get your next month or your reload while waiting for the train.
andrewjw wrote:That is a fair point. I don't know how much I'll be using regional rail though, now that I'm in college.mcgrath618 wrote:As I sit in 30th st waiting for my train, I wonder why they’ve installed kiosks past the turnstiles? Do I not understand how this works?Honestly, I appreciate it. Get your next month or your reload while waiting for the train.
ChesterValley wrote:I should also clarify, tokens are taken by the key machines to buy Quick Trip's but they are trying their hardest to eradicate them. The token machines still accept them on the validators for the Busses, Trolleys and Route 100. Frankly it's a matter of time before SEPTA rolls out new systems built without tokens.In 2006, the MBTA phased out tokens.
jamesinclair wrote:I'm sure that the cynical calculus at 1234 is "The quicker we stop accepting tokens, the harder it will be to redeem them and we get more permanent float."ChesterValley wrote:I should also clarify, tokens are taken by the key machines to buy Quick Trips but they are trying their hardest to eradicate them.There is no reason to phase them out this early
JeffK wrote:Jeff and Everyone: In case anyone was unaware SEPTA still will sell tokens in bulk to social servicejamesinclair wrote:I'm sure that the cynical calculus at 1234 is "The quicker we stop accepting tokens, the harder it will be to redeem them and we get more permanent float."ChesterValley wrote:I should also clarify, tokens are taken by the key machines to buy Quick Trips but they are trying their hardest to eradicate them.There is no reason to phase them out this early
ChesterValley wrote:http://www.septa.org/key/index.html#fareCV (and Everyone): First time I noticed this next round of fare changes - thanks for posting this...
Effective October 1st:
Regional Rail: Zone 3 Early adopters rolling out October 1st. You cannot purchase a monthly parking permit and the key. They will be rolling out those mobile kiosks at select stations and dates between 6 and 10 am.
City Transit/NHSL(Route 100): Turnstiles going into effect at 19th, 22nd, Norristown and 69th street stations. Cash and tokens will not be accepted at gate.
Subway and El: Cash and Tokens will no longer be accepted, Key and single trip only
System wide: PA reduced Transit Fare ID card no longer accepted.
ExCon90 wrote:The bulk sale of tokens to social-service organizations seems to be one more of those "oh, right ..." moments when something cropped up that SEPTA didn't think of; the tokens are handed out by organizations to individuals who are in immediate need of transportation, and they can't use a "fare instrument" that's tied to one individual. So, it's necessary to keep tokens in use--just for that purpose--longer than planned.My understanding is that they’re trying to come up with some form of single-use card that social-service angencies could buy in bulk. It would effectively be a QT but with fewer/no restrictions on when and where it can be used. Of course that still doesn’t address the no-transfer "gotcha", nor does it explain why the Key's planners didn’t simply implement open-use QTs in the first place. Just one more example of the blindered thinking that's led to so many of the Key's oversights and omissions.
bikentransit wrote:What's the timetable for getting travel wallet working on the key thing?Travel wallet is already active on the city side along with Transpasses. You can also get a Zone 4 and soon a Zone 3 weekly or monthly Trailpass. As for wallet on regional rail, the most concrete answer I've heard was "possibly next year."
Seems like key card is useless unless you have a transpass put on it.
dcipjr wrote:“Possibly” next year? There’s no way they’re not done the Key rollout by the end of 2019—right?The end of 2019 would be consistent with SEPTA's previously-announced completion dates - 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 ....