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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by superstar » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:34 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:
It has absolutely nothing to do with bathrooms, the contractor for CT rail will not operate in Massachusetts.
the greenfield extension will be run by Amtrak.
But three CTrail trips run to Springfield.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by DutchRailnut » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:52 pm

yes but not providing transportation between two massachusetts stations , the outfit running CT rail can not provide services out of state.
Amtrak is only carrier going to greenfield, like it or not.
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:35 pm

I'd much rather ride in an Amfleet than an MBB Coach anywhere on the SPG Line, especially if I am continuing to Holyoke or Greenfield. Personally if I could do it all over again, instead of having Ctrail, I would have just operated everything on the SPG Line with Amtrak equipment and Amtrak crew.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by nomis » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:38 pm

MassDOT can chose whomever the operator would be, and they believe that Amtrak is their preferred operator to get this pilot service off the ground.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by Traingeek3629 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:04 am

DutchRailnut wrote:
Traingeek3629 wrote:
DutchRailnut wrote:No CTrail consist will run to greenfield .
Especially with the bathroom issues and how uncomfortable those cars are.
It has absolutely nothing to do with bathrooms, the contractor for CT rail will not operate in Massachusetts.
the greenfield extension will be run by Amtrak.
Um, CTrail already goes to Massachusetts. So, if they won't operate in Massachusetts, how are there already trains to Springfield?
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by DutchRailnut » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:25 am

looks like you have a problem with reading comprehension. terminating a line vs providing service .
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by Traingeek3629 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:42 am

Nevertheless, they still provide service to Massachusetts.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by BandA » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:54 am

MassDOT owns the line from Springfield to Greenfield, so they can pick anybody they want to operate it. Guess basically the choices were to extend CTRail trains or Amtrak trains or run dinkies & they chose Amtrak.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by Backshophoss » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:33 am

Amtrak will run the "Demonstration" Commuter service,if it does go "fulltime",Figure on a MassDOT/Keolis creating "T west" to operate the service.
and getting PAR to live with PTC(ACSES II) installed to Greenfield Ma.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:21 am

Amtrak will provide the equipment and their crew will operate the trains on the new extensions to Greenfield.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by gokeefe » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:53 am

I'm still amazed this extension is happening. Of all the places one would have expected to see additional service first ... Good for them and good for MassDOT.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by Safetee » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:47 am

The amazing driving force behind the choo choos is the desire to make sure MGM is a cash cow for Springfield. The fact that most buses from Greenfield to Springfield typically don't carry ten passengers makes one wonder about the hoped for crowds for this new service. Maybe Smithies really are compulsive gamblers.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by Kilo Echo » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:41 pm

Safetee wrote:The fact that most buses from Greenfield to Springfield typically don't carry ten passengers makes one wonder about the hoped for crowds for this new service. Maybe Smithies really are compulsive gamblers.
Perhaps a few passengers would consider taking the train to points south of Springfield.
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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:49 pm

When the pair of shuttles are extended north of SPG, it will open up many opportunities, especially for people who might live in Greenfield and want to spend a full day in Central Connecticut-maybe a full day of sightseeing in Hartford.

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Re: Amtrak Springfield Line: Greenfield/Boston B&A Shuttle S

Post by TomNelligan » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:33 pm

njt/mnrrbuff wrote:...maybe a full day of sightseeing in Hartford.
Uh, I'm guessing that you haven't spent a whole lot of time in downtown Hartford. Not exactly a tourist mecca. :-)

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