by phillyrube
Ok, rolling blackouts. How many people will stand for that?
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Moderator: AlexC
People are still complaining about the Power plant it seems
Construction of the $26.8 million facility is 80 percent complete, SEPTA officials said, and the generator, being built on the same property as the Midvale Bus Depot near the Roosevelt Expressway and West Hunting Park Avenue, is scheduled to begin operating in January.
Yet, in a small municipal hearing room at 16th and Arch Streets on Tuesday, the project's near-completion was no obstacle to fierce opposition from a coalition of environmental and community activists. They were before the Licenses and Inspections Review Board appealing an air permit the facility was granted — the latest fight in two years of opposition to the generator. The opponents have had little success stopping or even slowing the project but insist they will prevail.
"We'll take the issue to the EPA," said Peter Winslow, a member of 350 Philadelphia, an environmental group that has led the fight. "We'll take the issue to City Council. This is not going to end."
NorthPennLimited wrote:Let the hippies complain.*claps*
There is more toxic soup in the ground from the old Midvale Steel plant to ruffle your feathers over, rather than some carbon monoxide from a natural gas generator.
This project is almost funding itself. Do these protesters mind paying for solar panels and windmills at the expense of a tax hike or fare hike?
I wonder how many protesters own a gasoline powered vehicle, or live in a home with oil or natural gas heat. Or wear clothing made in a sweat shop, using child labor, then shipped half way across the globe (using fossil fuels to propel the ships and trucks) so we can buy $19.99 denim jeans $5.00 T-shirts and use the rest of our money to buy cheap electronics.
Don't these hippie democrats also want lots of middle class jobs? This type of project supports construction workers, electricians, and pipe fitters to make the generating station. The fuel is supplied from gas wells leased and drilled right here in the Commonwealth. The workers who will run and maintain the generating plant will also be hired locally. Jobs jobs jobs.
But they want to protest emissions from a gas plant in an area that is zoned heavy industrial, and has been since after the civil war. These people are every bit hypocrites as the republicans they trash.
Everybody in this Millenial generation loves to point the finger and hold protests, but they don't have any solutions or honest fact-based discussions to brainstorm solutions to their "first world" problems.
NorthPennLimited wrote:Godwin's Law may need updating. The proponents and opponents of this project come in all flavors.
Don't these hippie democrats also want...
...hypocrites as the republicans they trash.
westernfalls wrote:WF and Everyone: Yes-NIMBYs and BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone)NorthPennLimited wrote:Godwin's Law may need updating. The proponents and opponents of this project come in all flavors.
Don't these hippie democrats also want...
...hypocrites as the republicans they trash.
NorthPennLimited wrote:Let the hippies complain.Battery arrays which can store a LOT of energy! Things have changed since you boomers were around, we have the ability to store multiple megawatts of battery energy, have a clean fuel cell array and buy solar and wind to keep this place topped off since this is a peaker and not primary 25hz/60hz mains power. Do you even know about modern mainline generation?
There is more toxic soup in the ground from the old Midvale Steel plant to ruffle your feathers over, rather than some carbon monoxide from a natural gas generator.
This project is almost funding itself. Do these protesters mind paying for solar panels and windmills at the expense of a tax hike or fare hike?
I wonder how many protesters own a gasoline powered vehicle, or live in a home with oil or natural gas heat. Or wear clothing made in a sweat shop, using child labor, then shipped half way across the globe (using fossil fuels to propel the ships and trucks) so we can buy $19.99 denim jeans $5.00 T-shirts and use the rest of our money to buy cheap electronics.
Don't these hippie democrats also want lots of middle class jobs? This type of project supports construction workers, electricians, and pipe fitters to make the generating station. The fuel is supplied from gas wells leased and drilled right here in the Commonwealth. The workers who will run and maintain the generating plant will also be hired locally. Jobs jobs jobs.
But they want to protest emissions from a gas plant in an area that is zoned heavy industrial, and has been since after the civil war. These people are every bit hypocrites as the republicans they trash.
Everybody in this Millenial generation loves to point the finger and hold protests, but they don't have any solutions or honest fact-based discussions to brainstorm solutions to their "first world" problems.