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 #1006463  by mandealco
 
I can't add anything on why 4204 is heading to Morristown, but the following may be of interest. The 4204 is another of the former CP Rail C-424's that has been upgraded with a former Big M alternator, the same configuration as the 2 that went to the WNY&P (4223, 4228). The spotting features are the raised section on top of the air intake area and the third air tank needed for the air start on an alternator equipped Century. Normal ph 4 C-424's don't have an air tank on the LHS, just the 2 on the other.
Cheers
Steve
 #1007194  by bk77
 
The "H-02" list reports that H-02 brought the 4204 east from Washington yesterday. No sighting of it in Morristown yet so its probably sitting in Lake Junct.
 #1007217  by blockline4180
 
sallenparks wrote:Thanks for the help I hope she will be used and not scrapped.
I hope it isn't scrapped either, however the reason why M&E probably buys these engines could be for parts to keep the 18 and 19 going... I thought alco parts are scarce today!
 #1007260  by ns3010
 
bk77 wrote:The "H-02" list reports that H-02 brought the 4204 east from Washington yesterday. No sighting of it in Morristown yet so its probably sitting in Lake Junct.
I meant to copy and paste my post here as well, but it seems that I forgot. Thanks for taking care of it!

Also, confirmed that it is at Lake Junction for the weekend (photo not mine):
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPictur ... id=2873880


blockline4180 wrote:[quote="sallenparks]Thanks for the help I hope she will be used and not scrapped.

I hope it isn't scrapped either, however the reason why M&E probably buys these engines could be for parts to keep the 18 and 19 going... I thought alco parts are scarce today![/quote][/quote]

I would hope not, but I think that's what's going to happen. 4216 is slowly on its way back to life (as evidenced by its periodic returns to the shops, as well as Rudy's past statements), so the only part unit they have is 4231. They had 4240, but it was scrapped two years ago. I imagine that it would be hard for them to use one part unit for four operable units.



Also, it was 742, not 740 as previously reported, that was scrapped last week. Here's a photo of it (incorrectly labeled as 799, but it is 742) during scrapping (photo also not mine):
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPictur ... id=2868329



Here's an updated roster, originally compiled by Rudy (hope you don't mind!):

SVC = Serviceable (Operational or down for minor running repairs)
OOS = Out of Service

RRPX is a leasing company owned by M&E president Wes Weis.

C424 #18 - SVC in Morristown
C424 #19 - SVC in Morristown
SW1500 #20 - SVC at Bayway
RS1 #21 - OOS at Whippany, RRPX-owned
GP9M #22 - OOS at Jefferson Road (engine replacement not finished)
BL2 #54 - SVC in Honesdale, SBRR-owned
FL9 #485 - OOS somewhere on Whippany line (East Hanover?), RRPX-owned (parts source - I've never actually seen this locomotive)
FL9 #486 - OOS somewhere on Whippany line (East Hanover?), RRPX-owned (parts source - I've never actually seen this locomotive)
FL9 #487 - OOS in Morristown, RRPX-owned (intact, may be restored to operation)
FL9 #488 - SVC in Maine, RRPX-owned
FL9 #489 - OOS in Whippany, RRPX-owned (needs engine repairs)
SW1200 #557 - SVC at Bayway, RRPX-owned
SW1200 #559 - SVC in Morristown, RRPX-owned
SW1200 #563 - ???, was RRPX-owned but is now sold to new owner (rumor has it it's the East Penn Railway?) Is it still on property?
SW1 #738 - OOS somewhere on Whippany line (East Hanover?), RRPX-owned (I've never actually seen this locomotive)
GP9 #764 - SVC in Maine, RRPX-owned
M420 #3562 - OOS at Jefferson Road, RRPX-owned (parts source)
M420 #3573 - SVC in Maine, RRPX-owned
C424 #4204 - ??? at Lake Junction, enroute to Morristown
C424 #4216 - SVC stored at Jefferson Road (needs some electrical work, but runs and plans are to restore it to operation)
C424 #4231 - OOS at Jefferson Road (will likely be a part source)
RS11 #7205 - OOS at Morristown, RRPX-owned
RS11 #7215 - OOS at Jefferson Road, RRPX-owned
Plymouth #7299 - SVC in Morristown, owned by the Military Transportation Association
 #1008132  by Ðauntless
 
blockline4180 wrote:
sallenparks wrote:Thanks for the help I hope she will be used and not scrapped.
I hope it isn't scrapped either, however the reason why M&E probably buys these engines could be for parts to keep the 18 and 19 going... I thought alco parts are scarce today!
People really need to stop saying Alco parts are getting hard to get, because it is flat out not true. You can still get it all, most of which brand new as well..
 #1008206  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Same goes for the classic car world, as "reproduction" parts for many models are available, along with "NOS" (new original stock).
 #1008463  by RS115
 
4204 is now in Morristown sitting in front of the engine house on track 2. Baggage car 1002 looks to be next to get torched. How the scrap is transported is up to the purchaser and if they're at all local trucks the way to go. Scrapper's buying it to make money on resale/disposal.
 #1008846  by kamerad47
 
Is the RR actually cut up the cars & loco's or are they scavenging them for parts a someone else cuts them up?
 #1012908  by therudycometh
 
UPDATED (AS OF JANUARY 31, 2012)

SVC = Serviceable (Operational or down for minor running repairs)
OOS = Out of Service

RRPX is a leasing company owned by M&E president Wes Weis.

C424 #18 - SVC in Morristown
C424 #19 - SVC in Morristown
SW1500 #20 - SVC at Bayway
RS1 #21 - OOS at Whippany, RRPX-owned
GP9M #22 - OOS at Jefferson Road (engine replacement not finished)
BL2 #54 - Drained and stored SVC in Honesdale, SBRR-owned
FL9 #485 - OOS on Vornado siding (Whippany Line, East Hanover), RRPX-owned (parts source)
FL9 #486 - OOS on Vornado siding (Whippany Line, East Hanover), RRPX-owned (parts source)
FL9 #487 - OOS in Morristown, RRPX-owned (intact, may be restored to operation)
FL9 #488 - SVC in Maine, RRPX-owned
FL9 #489 - OOS in Whippany, RRPX-owned (power assemblies currently out for remanufacturing)
SW1200 #557 - SVC at Bayway, RRPX-owned
SW1200 #559 - SVC at Jefferson Road, RRPX-owned
SW1200 #563 - SVC at Jefferson Road, RRPX-owned (FOR SALE)
SW1 #738 - OOS in East Hanover (can be made to run using parts from recently scrapped #742)
GP9 #764 - SVC in Maine, RRPX-owned
M420 #3562 - OOS at Jefferson Road, RRPX-owned (parts source)
M420 #3573 - SVC in Maine, RRPX-owned
C424 #4204 - OOS somewhere on Whippany Line (needs some electrical work, plans are to restore it to operation)
C424 #4216 - OOS at Jefferson Road (needs some electrical work, plans are to restore it to operation)
C424 #4231 - OOS at Jefferson Road (parts source, likely to be scrapped)
RS11 #7205 - OOS at Morristown, RRPX-owned
RS11 #7215 - OOS at Jefferson Road, RRPX-owned
Plymouth #7299 - SVC in Morristown, owned by the Military Transportation Association
 #1012909  by therudycometh
 
kamerad47 wrote:Is the RR actually cut up the cars & loco's or are they scavenging them for parts a someone else cuts them up?
We contracted professional scrappers to actually scrap the cars, but the mechanical staff stripped them of parts first.
 #1012938  by Sid Farkus
 
Rudy,

Would you happen to know where the P5 that was temporarily put on 489 for the Christmas Excursions came from? The engine used to have a K5 on it (any idea what happened to it?), but ME always dismantles the horn on that unit when being transported and in for work or storage. Thanks
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