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 #818146  by Matthew Mitchell
 
Haven't been there in a while (State Line Liquors is worth a visit), but Elkton is mostly residential. There is considerable new development expected there though, due to expanding of the Wilmington/Philadelphia commutershed and the redevelopment (BRAC) of the Aberdeen Proving Ground. Maryland is doing a lot of work to try and link transportation improvements to the BRAC projects.
 #818163  by MelroseMatt
 
Matthew Mitchell wrote:Haven't been there in a while (State Line Liquors is worth a visit), but Elkton is mostly residential. There is considerable new development expected there though, due to expanding of the Wilmington/Philadelphia commutershed and the redevelopment (BRAC) of the Aberdeen Proving Ground. Maryland is doing a lot of work to try and link transportation improvements to the BRAC projects.
(Have to recommend Vlamouth's liquors as well)

I've been to Elkton. My buddy's company is there because real estate prices are dirt cheep compared to Delaware or SE Pennsylvania, so they could afford an enormous warehouse. Also, the area has lots of cheep labor available to work in their warehouse. I get the impression that most people who live in Cecil County, don't leave Cecil county very often. Its really too far for most people to Commute to Philadelphia or Baltimore. Those working in Wilmington don't have to venture so far for inexpensive suburban subdivisions.

That said, I'm trying to compare Elkton to Suburban station with SEPTA's other long commutes.

Newark-Suburban
Local: 1h 16 min
Exp: 1h 7 min

Thorndale-Suburban
Local: 1h 9 min
Exp: 56 min

Doylestown-Suburban
Local: 1h 20 min
Exp: 1h 13 min

If we assume 5 minutes to get from Newark to Elkton, it basically matches the run from Doylestown. I just don't think there's a big market for a 1h 20 min commute from Elkton to Philly. I don't know how much intermediate and reverse commuting you could get here either. The growth in Elkton hasn't been in walking distance from the train station, its been in office parks outside the city limits.
 #818338  by JeffK
 
Bill R. wrote:... the plan suggested by this map is similar in scale and scope to that intended by the Ministry of Transport for the Montreal Metro in 1967.
"Les prévisions prévoyaient que les 25 kilomètres de lignes de métro de 1967 passeraient à 40 km en 1972, 71 km en 1977, pour culminer à 112 km en 1982. Nous aurions été gratifiés d'un réseau de métro comportant neuf lignes, au maillage qui ne peut empêcher de faire penser que le réseau d'autobus complémentaire serait probablement beaucoup plus maigre qu'il ne l'est présentement."

Loose translation of this core paragraph: "The plans envisioned expanding the 25 km of lines existing in 1967 to 40 km in 1972, to 71 in 1977, and finally 112 in 1982." (That's about 70 miles for the base-10 challenged). "We would have been blessed with a network comprising 9 lines, arranged in a mesh that might well have meant that the complementary bus system would be much smaller than it is now."
 #818467  by Patrick Boylan
 
http://brog.engrish.com/
scroll to
May 12th, 2010
Tokyo Subway Map

I thought that was complicated, then I clicked the link
Newest Shirt - Tokyo Subway Map
http://brog.engrish.com/2010/05/12/newe ... ubway-map/
and read some of the comments
Don’t forget that an entire OTHER system of trains overlays this subway system!
Actually I only included the Yamanote and Chuo lines for JR. These two lines are typically included in subway maps since they are so important to commuting in central Tokyo. If you include JR and other lines in a map of greater Tokyo you get something like this (which is way too detailed for a tshirt!):

http://www.meik.jp/2rosenzu/tokyo_rosenzu.html
I wore this on the subway. Kept looking at my shirt for directions. Wound up traveling backwards.