SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

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SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by glennk419 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:13 pm

6ABC is showing SLIV 144 burning at Glenside Station. It appears to be more than a traction motor as there is active fire under the car. Pan is dropped and obviously all crew and passengers evacuated.

Edit: flames now visible through the dynamic brake grids. Not a good situation.

Currently no active firefighting going only, probably waiting for catenary to be de-energized.

https://6abc.com/septa-train-on-fire-at ... n/4090207/
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by zebrasepta » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:12 pm

glennk419 wrote:6ABC is showing SLIV 144 burning at Glenside Station. It appears to be more than a traction motor as there is active fire under the car. Pan is dropped and obviously all crew and passengers evacuated.

Edit: flames now visible through the dynamic brake grids. Not a good situation.

Currently no active firefighting going only, probably waiting for catenary to be de-energized.

https://6abc.com/septa-train-on-fire-at ... n/4090207/
Service resumed
Warminster : Service has resumed with delays of up to 30 minutes. Train #3448 will be the first train to depart Center City to Warminster.
Lansdale/Doylestown : Service has resumed with delays of up to 30 minutes. Train #6572 will be the first train to depart Center City to Doylestown.

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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by glennk419 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:43 pm

I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by zebrasepta » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:44 pm

glennk419 wrote:I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
The Silverliner IVs are getting older some are 45 years old, so they'll need to be replaced soon although I won't miss them as much as the II's and the III's
Does SEPTA have any design plan for the VIs or are they going to be the same design concept as the Vs?

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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by BuddCar711 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:16 pm

glennk419 wrote:I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
We don't know the extent of the damage. Anyhoo, could be something flew into the resister grid and caught fire. As far as the Silverliner VI, SEPTA may order them sooner than expected because SEPTA was hoping for at least another 7 years from the SL-IVs. I'm surprised the SL-IVs went this far without a proper GOH.

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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by glennk419 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:03 pm

BuddCar711 wrote:
glennk419 wrote:I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
We don't know the extent of the damage. Anyhoo, could be something flew into the resister grid and caught fire. As far as the Silverliner VI, SEPTA may order them sooner than expected because SEPTA was hoping for at least another 7 years from the SL-IVs. I'm surprised the SL-IVs went this far without a proper GOH.
I watched the extended live chopper video and the fire definitely started under the car and then extended up through the center columns to the brake grid. At one point, there was smoke coming from the vents on the rear of the car which leads me to believe that the fire breached the interior panels.
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by CNJGeep » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:45 pm

BuddCar711 wrote:We don't know the extent of the damage.
The entire middle of the car looks like a Smore.
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:09 pm

glennk419 wrote:I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
If two Arrow IIs could be converted to cab cars, here's another waiting.
Since my friend continues to chain smoke nonstop, she is probably an Alco.

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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by glennk419 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:02 pm

Has anyone seen any updates on the cause of this fire or whether 144 is a complete write off?
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by MACTRAXX » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:49 am

zebrasepta wrote:
glennk419 wrote:I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
The Silverliner IVs are getting older some are 45 years old, so they'll need to be replaced soon although I won't miss them as much as the II's and the III's
Does SEPTA have any design plan for the VIs or are they going to be the same design concept as the Vs?
ZS and Everyone:
The Silverliner Four cars were built during the years 1974-75-76 making them 42-43-44 years old currently. The original order 1974-75; The add-on 1975-76.
The first cars were the single RDG cars 9018-9031 dating from the final months of 1973. The Silverliner Four introduction folder has a noticeably photoshopped
picture of #9018 with the Art Museum in the background taken from the vicinity of 30th Street Station. Most likely on display being a RDG car in PC territory.

#144 was a RDG car dating from 1976 that was likely delivered after Conrail Day (April 1st) since it never had the RDG diamond herald as the early 100 series
pairs had...The fire likely was a result of overheated components during the late August heat wave. More then likely SEPTA is "hiding" this car at Wayne Electric
or it was towed through to Overbrook...As for Silverliner Six cars: Does SEPTA have ANY funding in place to even offer RFPs let alone a contract? MACTRAXX
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by Backshophoss » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:36 pm

Unless SEPTA has the spare parts to rebuild that car,any usable parts will be pulled off the remains,and a write off. :wink:
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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by NorthPennLimited » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:21 pm

The cars are visible on the back shop tracks at Wayne Electric. The south car has the windows covered in what appears to be shrink wrap. I guess they are waiting further disposition from the “insurance adjusters” before they are determined to be scrapped or if it’s economically feasible to rebuild them.

I guess the decision also lies in the timeline it takes to secure loans/ bonds to purchase the next generation of Silverliners

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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by ekt8750 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:14 am

NorthPennLimited wrote:The cars are visible on the back shop tracks at Wayne Electric. The south car has the windows covered in what appears to be shrink wrap. I guess they are waiting further disposition from the “insurance adjusters” before they are determined to be scrapped or if it’s economically feasible to rebuild them.

I guess the decision also lies in the timeline it takes to secure loans/ bonds to purchase the next generation of Silverliners
I'd have to believe they retire the burnt car and then take the remaining one and build another MOW train with it.

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Re: SEPTA SLIV Fire at Glenside

Post by MACTRAXX » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 pm

glennk419 wrote:I'm guessing that 143 is going to need a new mate.
Glenn, EKT and Everyone: What may happen is car #143 may end up paired up with another even
number car when one becomes available or if there is one sidelined at one of the shops.
If another even numbered car needs a mate we know at least one should now be available... :wink:
#144 will likely end up being written off upon deposition and scrapped.

There have been mismatched pairs of Silverliner Four cars over time - the idea is to have as many
cars in service as possible. In cases this is temporary while one half of a pair gets major repairs.
With the fleet's advanced age retirement has to be factored in...
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