SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

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rcthompson04
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Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

Post by rcthompson04 » Thu May 02, 2019 9:51 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:Everyone - Interesting report on 6abc Action News on 5/1 titled:
"Building it Better: How SEPTA plans to improve mass transit in Philadelphia"
https://www.6abc.com/travel/how-septa-p ... a/5280342/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One mistake I took notice to is the mention that the CRRC multilevels due in 2020 are going to
replace railcars dating from the 1970s (meaning the Silverliner Four cars) which is not the case
with only 55(?) new cars to be added to the fleet. This will only increase the amount of trains
using locomotive-hauled consists alongside the new ACS64 motors now in service.

An outright replacement will be the future order of Silverliner Six cars (around 200 cars) which
WILL replace the entire Silverliner Four fleet. These cars are now between 45 and 43 years old
as of this year. Do they have a legitimate chance to get to 50 years of service?

MACTRAXX
Whether they should or not, they will almost certainly. I think the point 6ABC is trying to get across is that many of these cars will start supplanting existing Silverliner IV runs like the all day push-pull run.

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Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

Post by mcgrath618 » Thu May 02, 2019 10:33 pm

MACTRAXX wrote:Everyone - Interesting report on 6abc Action News on 5/1 titled:
"Building it Better: How SEPTA plans to improve mass transit in Philadelphia"
https://www.6abc.com/travel/how-septa-p ... a/5280342/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One mistake I took notice to is the mention that the CRRC multilevels due in 2020 are going to
replace railcars dating from the 1970s (meaning the Silverliner Four cars) which is not the case
with only 55(?) new cars to be added to the fleet. This will only increase the amount of trains
using locomotive-hauled consists alongside the new ACS64 motors now in service.

An outright replacement will be the future order of Silverliner Six cars (around 200 cars) which
WILL replace the entire Silverliner Four fleet. These cars are now between 45 and 43 years old
as of this year. Do they have a legitimate chance to get to 50 years of service?

MACTRAXX
Depends on how long the NJT contract takes. The order called for SEPTA's 250 cars as an addition to their original order, so assumedly theirs would have to be filled first.

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Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

Post by ChemiosMurphy » Fri May 03, 2019 5:14 pm

mcgrath618 wrote:Depends on how long the NJT contract takes. The order called for SEPTA's 250 cars as an addition to their original order, so assumedly theirs would have to be filled first.
Since this would be an option from another agency, does this allow Septa to bypass the bidding process and simply go with Bombardier? If so, it's a shame they went with CRRC instead of BBD MLV, the fleet would have been almost unified.

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Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

Post by rcthompson04 » Fri May 03, 2019 8:07 pm

ChemiosMurphy wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:Depends on how long the NJT contract takes. The order called for SEPTA's 250 cars as an addition to their original order, so assumedly theirs would have to be filled first.
Since this would be an option from another agency, does this allow Septa to bypass the bidding process and simply go with Bombardier? If so, it's a shame they went with CRRC instead of BBD MLV, the fleet would have been almost unified.
I think after the Silverliner V fiasco in 2016 it makes sense to have a good level of diversity in the fleet.

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Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

Post by mcgrath618 » Fri May 03, 2019 9:36 pm

ChemiosMurphy wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:Depends on how long the NJT contract takes. The order called for SEPTA's 250 cars as an addition to their original order, so assumedly theirs would have to be filled first.
Since this would be an option from another agency, does this allow Septa to bypass the bidding process and simply go with Bombardier? If so, it's a shame they went with CRRC instead of BBD MLV, the fleet would have been almost unified.
Correct. There will be no RFP from SEPTA.

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