Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

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Unless they also buy the unused MARC toasters and take over maintenance on them. We got 'em sitting there doing nothing in Riverside.
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STrRedWolf wrote:Unless they also buy the unused MARC toasters and take over maintenance on them. We got 'em sitting there doing nothing in Riverside.
Any speculation as to what kind of shape the MARC units are in at this point? Would they be worth SEPTA getting them even just for parts supplies for their own AEM7s?
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I've only seen the one toaster at riverside.

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Silverliner II wrote:15 of them, I hear. But with what will they run with, unless they lengthen all the Bomber sets to 8-car consists? The Sprinters aren't due till 2018, so the toasters are already all occupied...
They're leasing or borrowing 26 of them, any idea which 15 they wanted to buy?
Math adding numbers from previous posts =7 + 14 + 2 + 3 = 26
I'm assuming the 15 they wish to buy are the IIb units, 14 trailers plus one cab - instead of the 11 IIa units, 7 trailers plus 4 cabs.

At one time MARC had 60 MK II railcars built by Sumitomo/Nippon Sharyo
15 IIa trailers
11 IIa cabs
28 IIb trailers
6 IIb cabs

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I would have guessed the IIa's. Only because the IIb's for the most part, came off the MARC active roster. All the IIa's had been in storage for over a year and a half.

And they currently have 31 MARC cars on lease now. Another cab and four trailers arrived over the weekend. Total of 6 cabs and 25 trailers now on hand here.
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The issue is they have a mixed set of IIa and IIb's up there. I have to assume once the IV cab cars come all on board, all IIs that haven't been converted into bike cars are going to SEPTA.
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Does Broadway know how much SEPTA is paying MARC for those 15 railcars?

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That's above my paygrade, lol. Didn't hear anything about price yet.

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MARC Cars : 25

7701-7704-7705-7706-7707
7714-7716-7719
7721-7722-7726-7728-7729
7730-7731-7732-7733-7734
7746-7748
7751-7754-7756
7791-7798

Don't know which ones would be purchased. These are just the list of what's on the property today.
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The ACS-64 order is 13 units firm plus some options, right? This would replace 7 AEM-7s and 1 ALP-44, and unless they get the rumored bi-level push-pull coach order in real soon, this could provide extra cars in the short term until more coaches are delivered, right?

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South Jersey Budd wrote:MARC Cars : 24

7701-7704-7705-7706-7707
7714-7716-7719
7721-7722-7726-7728-7729
7730-7731-7732-7733-7734
7746-7748
7751-7754-7756
7791-7798

Don't know which ones would be purchased. These are just the list of what's on the property today.
Actually 26 cars on hand... you listed 25 cars and missed 7708, making 26.
It was mentioned in several places that an additional 5 cars and an ACS were brought up over the weekend, which would make 31, but that set has not been identified yet.
khecht wrote:The ACS-64 order is 13 units firm plus some options, right? This would replace 7 AEM-7s and 1 ALP-44, and unless they get the rumored bi-level push-pull coach order in real soon, this could provide extra cars in the short term until more coaches are delivered, right?
Yes, 13 with an option for 5 to make 18. Scheduled for delivery in 2018.
The coach order is expected for delivery sometime in 2019, which means a bidder would have to be selected and an order placed sometime in 2017.

Meanwhile, back in August at Suburban Station
MARC 7745 - Suburban.jpg
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Moody Monday morning at Bryn Mawr
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Could it be that SEPTA is considering picking up the option on the locomotive order?

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The NJT set went home. Six Silverliner IVs on 1724 this morning. It still terminated at Suburban Station though. Conductor was originally announcing Temple University as the last stop, then recanted at 30th Street.
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