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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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 #1280344  by Bill R.
 
...was the title of the pamphlet produced by the Buckingham Valley Trolley Association in connection with their 1991 railfan excursion on the Broad Street Subway.

The phrase might also be used to describe a recently discovered report that was produced by The Delaware Valley Association of Rail Passengers in 1979 when John Pawson was president of the organization. Entitled Year 2000 Rail Transportation System for the Delaware Valley (based on an energy-short scenario), the report details an extensive proposal to vastly expand the scope of rail transportation services within the Delaware Valley region before the beginning of the 21st century. Participants in the study committee included individuals with notable experience such as Tom Hickey, Ernest Cohen and Harry Hyde _ the latter a cofounder of DVARP.

While the full scope of the proposals is too extensive to describe here, interested parties can find and read the report document at this URL: http://dvarp.org/wordpress/?page_id=25

A main emphasis of the report is the utilization of existing or readily available surface rights-of-way, and selecting compatible transportation modes, for the purpose of containing project costs.

Unfortunately, the only completed major project proposed by the study that was not already planned or under construction in 1979 is the NJ Transit River Line. And even though it was completed, the River Line doesn't provide direct access to Philadelphia as suggested.

The lack of progress indicated by the incomplete report proposals is an unfortunate commentary on the failure of government leadership in the region to work in the best interest of the residents.
 #1280710  by R36 Combine Coach
 
One interesting find is item (12) of the Executive Summary: "a dual-power vehicle" proposed for non-electrified routes to outlying areas. Dual-power vehicles were science fiction in 1979, but have now arrived in the form of the ALP45 series.
 #1280974  by 25Hz
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote:One interesting find is item (12) of the Executive Summary: "a dual-power vehicle" proposed for non-electrified routes to outlying areas. Dual-power vehicles were science fiction in 1979, but have now arrived in the form of the ALP45 series.
Why SEPTA isn't pairing these with expansion is a symptom of what ails this region insofar as planning and lack of willingness to try new things that will actually improve service.
 #1281044  by RDG467
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote:One interesting find is item (12) of the Executive Summary: "a dual-power vehicle" proposed for non-electrified routes to outlying areas. Dual-power vehicles were science fiction in 1979, but have now arrived in the form of the ALP45 series.
Umm, can you say 'FL-9"? They were dual power (albeit third rail, 600 VDC), but certainly not science fiction.......