MSHL Woodland Shops

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MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by jackintosh11 » Fri May 16, 2014 11:06 am

How are the MSHL cars moved to the Woodland shops? Is there a track connection somewhere? Or are they trucked? Is there a way to move them via the El?
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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by sammy2009 » Fri May 16, 2014 12:01 pm

They are trucked from 69th st.

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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by Trackseventeen » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:23 am

To bad there's not an interlocking between the MFL and the trolleys down in the tunnel.

Although now that I think about it, the M4s would not be able to negotiate the curves under Penn.
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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by jackintosh11 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:50 pm

Trackseventeen wrote:To bad there's not an interlocking between the MFL and the trolleys down in the tunnel.

Although now that I think about it, the M4s would not be able to negotiate the curves under Penn.
The connection would be used for trolleys only, not for el cars
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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by 34thStreet » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:55 pm

Wouldn't there have to be overhead wire to connect the trolleys to the El if there was an interlocking? Both are the same gauge, but 3rd rail vs. overhead. I dont seem to remember the el tunnels having the overhead wires in place.
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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by JeffK » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:19 pm

34thStreet wrote:I don't seem to remember the El tunnels having the overhead wires in place.
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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by BuddSilverliner269 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:39 am

For thr history buffs, In the tunnel (exact location I forget ) west of 15th street I believe , there use to be switches between the subway surface car and the elevated. Switches have been out for a LONG time but the openings in the girder work remains. This interlocking was around when the tunnel first opened up because the trolleys were the first to use the tunnel, not the el and it was double ended trolley cars that changed ends at the 15th street station of the Elevated. If you look in the ceiling of the tunnelyou can see brackets that use to hold up trolley wire over tthe el tracks.

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Re: MSHL Woodland Shops

Post by trackwelder » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:13 pm

BuddSilverliner269 wrote:For thr history buffs, In the tunnel (exact location I forget ) west of 15th street I believe , there use to be switches between the subway surface car and the elevated. Switches have been out for a LONG time but the openings in the girder work remains. This interlocking was around when the tunnel first opened up because the trolleys were the first to use the tunnel, not the el and it was double ended trolley cars that changed ends at the 15th street station of the Elevated. If you look in the ceiling of the tunnelyou can see brackets that use to hold up trolley wire over tthe el tracks.

i can vouch for that. the wire hangers are in the tunnel east of city hall as well.
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