Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by #5 - Dyre Ave » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:01 pm

Who said they would be made diesel-hauled? They wouldn't be able to operate in the Locust St Subway or under downtown Camden if they were.

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by radioboy » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:44 pm

#5 - Dyre Ave wrote:Who said they would be made diesel-hauled? They wouldn't be able to operate in the Locust St Subway or under downtown Camden if they were.
It's a joke, because in the photo all you see is the big rubber truck wheels. The diesel is referring to the truck it's on.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by #5 - Dyre Ave » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:25 am

Ah, ok, I gotcha. With no emoticon at the end of that sentence, I couldn't tell if JeffK was joking.

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by ReadingAve » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:08 pm

I kept staring at the pictures of the new cars wondering why they looked different and then I realized. There's no black paint aroudn the windows on the front of the cars and the red cheater stripe is missing from the sides. I wonder if the paint will be added at Lindenwold or that's it, the new look?

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Post by ryanov » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:35 am

Someone else asked and didn't get an answer: what were those lights up top that are now removed for? Showing service patterns or something?
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by interlocking » Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:13 pm

ryanov wrote:Someone else asked and didn't get an answer: what were those lights up top that are now removed for? Showing service patterns or something?
Were they the lights that indicated that train was not under ATC?

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by prr60 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:25 pm

chuchubob wrote:
ReadingAve wrote:Thanks for the first look. Any idea how the new car numbers carry over from the original?
A former employee suggested that 2XY be renumbered 10XY. Thats what they're doing.
In the grand scheme of things it does not matter, but I wonder why they didn't simply add a "1" to the old number to make the new number? 1XY > 11XY, 2XY > 12XY, etc. With 247 becoming 1047 and apparently 2XY becoming 10XY, it begs the question of what happens with the renumbering of 1XY series single unit cars.

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by BuddCar711 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:26 pm

Will PATCO have one of the rebuilds on display before entering into service?

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by TWTRTECH » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:27 pm

Looks like another pair of rebuilt cars have arrived at the Lindenwold shop Thursday, #1095 and # 1096

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by Silverliner II » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:15 am

chuchubob wrote:
ReadingAve wrote:Thanks for the first look. Any idea how the new car numbers carry over from the original?
A former employee suggested that 2XY be renumbered 10XY. Thats what they're doing.
In an unconscious way, the 10xx-series numbers mimics the numbering system for the old Bridge cars, which were in the 1000-series. Cars 201-296 will return as 1001-1096. I am going to make a guess that the singles (101-125) will return as 1101-1125 (minus 120/1120, which had been running in work service, I hear).
ryanov wrote:Someone else asked and didn't get an answer: what were those lights up top that are now removed for? Showing service patterns or something?
They were simply white and red marker lights, white when leading, red when trailing, and are pretty much no longer used now anyway. My video, shot back in the fall: A Piece Of PATCO

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by nomis » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:32 am

IIRC, with the rebuild program, the singles would be turned into married pairs ...
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by Silverliner II » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:49 pm

nomis wrote:IIRC, with the rebuild program, the singles would be turned into married pairs ...
Whoa, what? Wow... well, that's going to make them stick out like sore thumbs in consists with the ends that get de-cabbed. I just wonder how they will handle the single leaf doors behind the cabs.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by BuddCar711 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:07 pm

So when are the rebuilds be in service?

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by TWTRTECH » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:48 pm

Silverliner II wrote:
nomis wrote:IIRC, with the rebuild program, the singles would be turned into married pairs ...
Whoa, what? Wow... well, that's going to make them stick out like sore thumbs in consists with the ends that get de-cabbed. I just wonder how they will handle the single leaf doors behind the cabs.
Well here is one of the one time singles..
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Post by prr60 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:24 am

So, here we are in April. Has anyone actually seen or heard of the refurbished cars being tested? The first cars arrived over three months ago with an estimate of first revenue service in February, and now <crickets>.

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