One-Seat Ride to NYC on Raritan Valley Line

[philipmartin]

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[philipmartin]

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[25Hz]

What is the start date for this, if it's given a green light?

[morris&essex4ever]

What is the start date for this, if it's given a green light?

According to the article, sometime at the beginning of next year. Maybe January 5th?

[philipmartin]

Coalition says evening service to begin Jan. 12.
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[philipmartin]

Here's the RV schedule dated 1-11-15.
http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/upcoming/R0060.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[TDowling]

I see they are gradually phasing in one seat service to new York. Would be good if weekend service were included.

[philipmartin]

I see they are gradually phasing in one seat service to new York. Would be good if weekend service were included.

That's obvious. But I suppose they only have one tunnel under the Hudson on weekends. Another factor I hadn't realized is that this service to NY requires funding. They are only putting on this evening service because they found funding for it.

[zerovanity59]

I see they are gradually phasing in one seat service to new York. Would be good if weekend service were included.

That's obvious. But I suppose they only have one tunnel under the Hudson on weekends. Another factor I hadn't realized is that this service to NY requires funding. They are only putting on this evening service because they found funding for it.

What I am confused about is the funding part. They say they needed funding to make the evening trips happen, but they received a one-time grant. Was that to cover one-time change in operation costs or the operational costs. If the operational costs, what are they going to do when the grant runs out?

[nomis]

I see they are gradually phasing in one seat service to new York. Would be good if weekend service were included.

That's obvious. But I suppose they only have one tunnel under the Hudson on weekends. Another factor I hadn't realized is that this service to NY requires funding. They are only putting on this evening service because they found funding for it.

What I am confused about is the funding part. They say they needed funding to make the evening trips happen, but they received a one-time grant. Was that to cover one-time change in operation costs or the operational costs. If the operational costs, what are they going to do when the grant runs out?

Hope that increased passenger loads cover the increased expense of running to NYP, that and budget accordingly in future FY's.

[necrails]

Any thoughts on why the service is being implemented for evenings only? Two trains inbound for the morning commute would great.

[philipmartin]

My guess is no slots available for the morning "commission hour" as one Pennsy operator called it years ago.

[CentralValleyRail]

From what I read the funding is costing almost 600K for the year but so far the initial one seat service was only averaging like 40 passengers per train. Its purely political. No one in their right mind would approve that. Yeah I get that the housing value will go up and over time you'll get a few more riders but in reality the funding should be used for something like Weekend Service to MSU where the demand has been there for years. I guess Montclair officials aren't in bed with NJT and therefore no service.

[EuroStar]

From what I read the funding is costing almost 600K for the year but so far the initial one seat service was only averaging like 40 passengers per train. Its purely political. No one in their right mind would approve that. Yeah I get that the housing value will go up and over time you'll get a few more riders but in reality the funding should be used for something like Weekend Service to MSU where the demand has been there for years. I guess Montclair officials aren't in bed with NJT and therefore no service.

Could not agree more. The initial weekend service was "at no cost" because the shuttle between Hoboken and Newark Broad was there. Unfortunately it cannot be extended to MSU without significant comitment of at least 2 more trainsets and crews -- I have looked into it, the travel times just do not work out with the clockface schedule used on the Morris-Essex line during the weekend.

[zerovanity59]

From what I read the funding is costing almost 600K for the year but so far the initial one seat service was only averaging like 40 passengers per train. Its purely political. No one in their right mind would approve that. Yeah I get that the housing value will go up and over time you'll get a few more riders but in reality the funding should be used for something like Weekend Service to MSU where the demand has been there for years. I guess Montclair officials aren't in bed with NJT and therefore no service.

Could not agree more. The initial weekend service was "at no cost" because the shuttle between Hoboken and Newark Broad was there. Unfortunately it cannot be extended to MSU without significant comitment of at least 2 more trainsets and crews -- I have looked into it, the travel times just do not work out with the clockface schedule used on the Morris-Essex line during the weekend.

Another issue is all the grade crossing in Montclair after the Bay street station. As of now they can avoid them by staying on the grade separated old Montclair branch, but they would have to cross numerous streets on the Montclair connection and the former New York and Greenwood Lake.