One-Seat Ride to NYC on Raritan Valley Line

[srock1028]

5121 (22) had mechanical issues in NYP and had to swap equipment. Looks like when mid-day EQ swaps take place in NYP, the train departs about 40 minutes late. When mid-day EQ swaps took place in Newark/MMC/Hudson before the one seat rides, the trains would most likely depart Newark ON-TIME.

[loufah]

Since the 2 Trenton tph run on uneven headways, how is the loading distribution? Similar on both? Really packed on the first and not so much on the second?

I take the train that departs Trenton after the SEPTA train arrives. It fills up gradually and is usually SRO after departing the Airport station. (Actually, they often start with the rear one or two cars closed. I don't know if the cars always get opened later.)

[NH2060]

One-seat rides to expand later this year:
http://www.roselleparknews.org/evening- ... -the-fall/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[nick11a]

One-seat rides to expand later this year:
http://www.roselleparknews.org/evening- ... -the-fall/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not a definite, but a likely thing to expect. Thanks for that.

[philipmartin]

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[millerm277]

Excellent. That's one of the major weaknesses on the RVL at present. Rush hour isn't so bad, you never have to wait long for your transfers. But later at night? If you come into Newark Penn at the wrong time you'll be sitting there for 45+ min for the next train to get back home. It's a significant detractor from using it at night, especially for things which don't have a definite timetable where you can plan it, like shows or restaurants.

[Ken W2KB]

Excellent. That's one of the major weaknesses on the RVL at present. Rush hour isn't so bad, you never have to wait long for your transfers. But later at night? If you come into Newark Penn at the wrong time you'll be sitting there for 45+ min for the next train to get back home. It's a significant detractor from using it at night, especially for things which don't have a definite timetable where you can plan it, like shows or restaurants.

Two hour wait for west of Raritan.

[philipmartin]

The Lehigh Line is a flyover for RV trains to get to track 1 east to Penn Station, but putting in the connection would be very difficult. As the picture shows, it bridges both the NEC and the P&H branch, and there is an elevated highway in the way. Oak Island yard is at the top.
The bottom left shows the connection from track 4 at Hunter to the Lehigh Line west. The Passaic & Harsimus and the Greenville branches parallel the Lehigh Line and Oak Island yard, to the left and right respectively. The Garden yard branches off to the right from the Greenville branch a couple of hundred feet east of the elevated highway. Waverly yard is out of sight to the right and Penn Station, Newark, is out of sight to the left.

[35dtmrs92]

What if the Lehigh Line bridge over the NEC is replaced south--railroad west on the NEC--of its current location? It looks as if there would be enough room to put in an eastbound RVL flyover that drops to the NEC level before reaching the new Route 21 bridge--which is higher than the bridge shown in the photo. The land that would have to be taken seems to be used for storing trailers. Yes, it would be a complex project, especially if the PATH extension has to also be accommodated, but it seems doable. We're not talking about the 2nd Avenue subway here.

The Lehigh Line is a flyover for RV trains to get to track 1 east to Penn Station, but putting in the connection would be very difficult. As the picture shows, it bridges both the NEC and the P&H branch, and there is an elevated highway in the way. Oak Island yard is at the top.
The bottom left shows the connection from track 4 at Hunter to the Lehigh Line west. The Passaic & Harsimus and the Greenville branches parallel the Lehigh Line and Oak Island yard, to the left and right respectively. The Garden yard branches off to the right from the Greenville branch a couple of hundred feet east of the elevated highway. Waverly yard is out of sight to the right and Penn Station, Newark, is out of sight to the left.

[ryanov]

Not only is the bridge now higher, but it's a completely different layout. I'm not sure if that helps or hurts. I remember when that project was done; gotta admit I'm a little nostalgic for the old bridge.

[kilroy]

How about building the flyover to start just west of the current NEC bridge, cross over the NEC and drop it into the Waverly-7 yard? You would probably have to rebuild the entire yard but there's not that much left of it and Amtrak might be able to get space someplace else, like the old storage yard behind where Hunter stood.

[philipmartin]

It does look as though they could put a bridge in, roughly paralleling the present connection, to fly over the NEC to the yard where Amtrak stores its track equipment, and onto track 1 east.

[philipmartin]

Tunnels near the end of the line, if you want to believe this reporter.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/c ... trak-warns" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ACeInTheHole]

I know just the person to bring into this conversation.. paging Don31!

[Don31]

The Hunter Flyover would start (railroad) west of the existing Lehigh Line bridge, in the vicinity of the Hunter Pocket Track/Hunter Connecting Track, cross the NEC and terminate on Track 0/Track 1 adjacent to the old Hunter Street Produce Yard. When the Route 21 Viaduct was replaced, the new structure was designed substantially higher, so clearance won't be an issue. I believe its currently in Preliminary Engineering.