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NYC rollsign questions

Post by jr145 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:18 pm

Hi everyone, I have this old rollsign and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what it may have come out of. I believe it is a bus rollsign but I'm not 100% sure. It has Court St - Boro hall,Concourse - Bedford park and a few others. If anyone has any ideas let me know.

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And for this one I just wanted to check if the top destination is the start point and the bottom one is the terminus, is that correct?


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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by Allan » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:46 am

jr145 wrote:Hi everyone, I have this old rollsign and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what it may have come out of. I believe it is a bus rollsign but I'm not 100% sure. It has Court St - Boro hall,Concourse - Bedford park and a few others. If anyone has any ideas let me know.

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And for this one I just wanted to check if the top destination is the start point and the bottom one is the terminus, is that correct?


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The first one is from an R10 series subway car. From the lettering I would say the roll sign itself is original.

The second is what was used on R44 and R46 cars in the 1980's just before they put digital signs on the sides of the cars. The top is the northern terminal (179 Street - Jamaica, the bottom is the southern terminal (World Trade Center).

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by railfan365 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:57 am

The Jamaica-179th Street sign would more likely be from an R-9. The R-10's had the adjustment crank on the bottom - and they were smaller.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by jr145 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:12 pm

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by Allan » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:57 pm

I didn't notice the crank handle on the right side of the sign frame.

I agree that it is probably from an R9 or possibly one of the earlier models as well - R1, R4, R6 R7 or R7A.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by jr145 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:57 pm

Hey everyone, just in case anyone is interested I mounted the R46 sign on the wall and wired in a few neon tubes behind it to backlight it. Just thought I'd share.

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Post by 3rdrail » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:09 pm

Very nice, JR ! Lighting these rollsigns really makes them come alive. You're the only other person that I have ever seen do that with the exception of myself. I made a box with bulb attachment for a SF Muni sign, which is always a conversation piece in my office when people come in. (If you do this and use a bulb, just make sure that your bulb has space between it and your canvas, along with ventilation.) (The two orbs by the "B" are just reflections on the glass from a ceiling lamp.)
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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by jr145 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:00 pm

I agree that the light really brings it to life. It adds another dimension to it.

I was lucky enough to get the entire roll about 10 years ago, before the fad of cutting them into individual pieces came along. I really wish I could get more complete rolls but I don't think many of them exist anymore. And if they do exist they're absurdly expensive. I believe I paid $200 for the entire roll, and now individual pieces are going for anywhere from $50 - $200 each. Its absurd.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by jr145 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:10 pm

Heres a small sample of some of the other destinations.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by 4400Washboard » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:22 am

Complete rolls are still available...

The MTA sells R32, Redbird and R40 sides.

eBay varies day-to-day but as of yesterday (3/1/14), R1-9 Front Destination, R62A Side, R11 Side, Numerous Queens bus front rolls, misc. trolley and other buses outside of NYC, SEPTA subway
MTA project completion date calculator Take the MTA 's estimate for completion and add 8 years to that.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by Crabman1130 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:44 pm

For some reason I'm not seeing the images, only the word image.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by BigUglyCat » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:31 pm

Crabman1130 wrote:For some reason I'm not seeing the images, only the word image.
Same here.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by jwhite07 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:47 pm

Postings were from 2011 - probably the images were taken down from wherever they were originally hosted.

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Re: NYC rollsign questions

Post by Crabman1130 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:31 pm

Thanks, I didn't notice that.

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