Unusual PATH Signal

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Unusual PATH Signal

Post by Head-end View » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:36 pm

Today while on the eastbound platform at Newark, I noticed a signal I'd not seen before. At the end of the platform there was the usual green "clear" signal. But next to it, at lower right was a flashing red light. It looked like a LIRR "order board". I'd not noticed it there before. Does anyone know what it means? It's not shown on either of 2 PATH signal aspect charts I have.

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Re: Unusual PATH Signal

Post by Terry Kennedy » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:57 pm

Head-end View wrote:Today while on the eastbound platform at Newark, I noticed a signal I'd not seen before. At the end of the platform there was the usual green "clear" signal. But next to it, at lower right was a flashing red light. It looked like a LIRR "order board". I'd not noticed it there before. Does anyone know what it means? It's not shown on either of 2 PATH signal aspect charts I have.
Assuming it was in a separate housing, it was indeed a "radio for instructions" signal. There's one at the front of the eastbound Grove St. track as well. I'm not sure how well maintained / used they are - even years ago, the one at Grove was acting up a lot - flashing even though Control didn't need to talk to anybody, staying on solid after the train cleared the block ahead, and so forth. I haven't seen the Grove one active in a number of years, though I don't ride the system as often as I used to.

If it was in the same housing as a regular signal, that would be rather bizarre at that location. There are a few spots where repeater signals at curves blink, to differentiate a repeater in an unusual location from a normal signal on another track. There's one one just before you get to the Journal Square yards, coming from Newark.

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Re: Unusual PATH Signal

Post by Head-end View » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:25 pm

Right on Terry. It was a separate housing below and to the right of the main signal, so your explanation fits. And yes, I have seen that left-hand repeater on the curve approaching Journal Sq. It used to be flashing green years ago, and is now flashing double-yellow for "speed-control".

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Re: Unusual PATH Signal

Post by OportRailfan » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:54 pm

I've noticed/seen that signal doing the same thing before HEV. Never took any interest in it, as I knew it couldn't be a standard signal.
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Re: Unusual PATH Signal

Post by HBLR » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:44 am

Could it be related to the dock bridge at all?
No I'm not a railroad professional, but that doesn't mean I can't provide first hand observational comments.

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Re: Unusual PATH Signal

Post by jb9152 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:39 pm

HBLR wrote:Could it be related to the dock bridge at all?
Go up a few posts. I think you'll find the answer there.

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Re: Unusual PATH Signal

Post by Head-end View » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:49 pm

Saw that signal operating again today. Don't know the reason. And on the prior westbound trip we actually rolled up to a dark signal in the Meadows. The engineer radioed the dispatcher saying the tripper was down but the signal was dark. The disp. apparently authorized the train to proceed past it and we continued to Newark.

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