F Express Service in Brooklyn (Culver Line)

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F Express Service in Brooklyn (Culver Line)

Post by braves » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:31 am

When the new R160 cars arrive in 2006 & Bergen St Interlocking is completed, this is the way F express will work that I heard from some resources.

1)Run F trains express between Jay Sy & Church Av in both directions.

2)Extend the V train local to Church Av.

3)Extend the G train to Church Av.

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Post by NJTransitFan » Sun Nov 14, 2004 11:02 pm

Braves, interesting ideas and I like them. Due to the fact, that I totally agree with you that we need that V Train to go into Church Avenue. But, what I disagree with is we don't need more empty train, such as, the G Train going to Church Avenue. And, I don't think that we need three trains to go to Church Avenue, when most ridership is going on the F or V Trains.

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Post by John Laubenheimer » Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:54 pm

Keep in mind that turning the "G" train at Smith/9th Sts requires fouling the express tracks at 4th Ave; this is not necessarily a quick turnaround, either. In order to utilize those express tracks, you must run the "G" service to Church Ave! What you suggest may be practical and necessary during rush hours, but is way too much service at other times.

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Post by NJTransitFan » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:56 pm

During the Weekdays, the V Trains run from 71/Continental Avenues to Church Avenue running local via 6th Avenue and Lower East Side. While, on the weekends, train service will be rolled back to its current 2nd Avenue/Lower East Side terminal. While, this is going on the weekends, maybe pull the G Train from Court Square to Church Avenue. Therefore, on the weekdays, G Trains terminates at its current terminal of Smith/9th Streets.

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Post by GP38 » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:07 am

I would love to see express service on the South Brooklyn line again, however, I think if the V should be extended anywhere, it should be extended from Bway-Lafayette to Essex Street, and then to Metropolitan Ave, replacing the M. This would serve a lot more people better. The V would take over the M line on Bway and Myrtle. You wouldn't even need any extra trains, as it would be a clean combination of the two lines. All what would need to be done is to trade the V's R46's with the E's R32's. The M would be abolished, and the V would run with 8 car 60 foot car trains or R32's and R42's. The J or Z would be extended rush hours to Bay Parkway to take over from the M's loss.

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F express in Brooklyn not happening until 2008.

Post by braves » Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:38 pm

I have been told now that F express service in Brooklyn will not be restored until 2008 but this has nothing to do with the Bergen St Interlocking project, this now has to do with the viaduct work along the outside segment between Carroll St portal & 4th Av portal.

F train riders in Brooklyn have now been waiting 14 years for express service to resume. Do you think that 2008 will finally be the year that F express service is restored.

ctaman34

what!!!!

Post by ctaman34 » Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:27 pm

i thought i heard in the next 2 years.

PacificCommand

Post by PacificCommand » Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:57 am

I dont see why people dont get the fact that ITS NOT COMING BACK.
The culver express is a known failure. It wasnt running before the fire, and it still wont be running afrter all the damage is fixed.

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G extension, F express service

Post by M&Eman » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:18 pm

Why do the express tracks on the F in Brooklyn remain unused? It would be nice if the G was extended as a local to Church Ave. and the F was made express to Church Ave.
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Re: G extension, F express service

Post by Hebrewman9 » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:25 pm

M&Eman wrote:Why do the express tracks on the F in Brooklyn remain unused? It would be nice if the G was extended as a local to Church Ave. and the F was made express to Church Ave.
I think this would be too much of an inconvinience to Manhattan-bound passengers at the bypassed stations.

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Re: G extension, F express service

Post by M&Eman » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:12 pm

A transfer at Smith/9th wouldn't be the end of the world for inner Culver Line passengers.
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Re: G extension, F express service

Post by Kamen Rider » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:57 pm

transfer to what? smith/9th is a local stop.
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Re: G extension, F express service

Post by jonnhrr » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:34 am

The transfer could be at 7th ave ( G would have to be extended to Church Ave) or Bergen St. although the latter would require climbing stairs from/to the lower level platforms.

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Re: G extension, F express service

Post by Wallyhorse » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:24 am

Actually:

The G is supposed to be extended to Church Avenue as I understand it while work is being done on the line, and once that work is complete in 2012, I believe they are supposed to actually go to that from what I remember reading (G local, F express).

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Re: G extension, F express service

Post by b/p rupture » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:44 pm

jonnhrr wrote:The transfer could be at 7th ave ( G would have to be extended to Church Ave) or Bergen St. although the latter would require climbing stairs from/to the lower level platforms.

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Lower level Bergen street platform are apparently permanently removed from service and are a huge mess. It's doubtful expresses, if they are done in the future, would make stops there.
32 x 5 = 160. However, R32 divided by 5 = R160

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