Honestly, from a commuters perspective from NJ into Manhattan, a 7 extension is a lot more convenient than gateway, even if gateway theoretically enabled every NJ Transit consist to run into Penn Station. Penn is crowded, the subway trains that run into it are at capacity since its midtown, and its a cramped, long walk from the CR platforms to 7th or 8th ave.
With the 7, you can get off your train or bus at the relatively uncrowded Secaucus Junction, walk through well organized and less ratlikle station complex, and get on an empty crosstown train that will bring you to any line. And there's always the potential to extend it to the Meadowlands. If the bus terminal were beefed up close to Port Authority levels, it would also be a great transit node for those connections as well.
There is no reason the two projects need to be mutually exclusive. They both serve different demographics of travelers. Gateway is vital for Amtrak and NJT customers whos destination are train connections at Penn, or Midtown. The 7 extension is more useful to those travelling from right across the Hudson and NJT customers who are transferring to the subway and would enjoy an empty seat.
If it came to one or the other, Gateway is the clear winner. But both would compliment each other nicely and vastly improve the cross-hudson commuters life.
My question is, if the 7 were extended, would it include a stop or two in Jersey before Secaucus, or would it be too complicated to build below the palisades?
With the 7, you can get off your train or bus at the relatively uncrowded Secaucus Junction, walk through well organized and less ratlikle station complex, and get on an empty crosstown train that will bring you to any line. And there's always the potential to extend it to the Meadowlands. If the bus terminal were beefed up close to Port Authority levels, it would also be a great transit node for those connections as well.
There is no reason the two projects need to be mutually exclusive. They both serve different demographics of travelers. Gateway is vital for Amtrak and NJT customers whos destination are train connections at Penn, or Midtown. The 7 extension is more useful to those travelling from right across the Hudson and NJT customers who are transferring to the subway and would enjoy an empty seat.
If it came to one or the other, Gateway is the clear winner. But both would compliment each other nicely and vastly improve the cross-hudson commuters life.
My question is, if the 7 were extended, would it include a stop or two in Jersey before Secaucus, or would it be too complicated to build below the palisades?
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