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nyrmetros wrote:yes, it may be safer, but the trip is more boring!You can still look out the side & enjoy the scenery nwk to the portal!
great view.
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25Hz wrote:Hey, i miss the view too. I like looking at the intermodal yard now that the front view is gone, lots of interesting locomotives spotted there over the years, including UP and BNSF units far from home.You mentioned earlier that sometimes the RFW on the PA-5 cars is accessible. Have you found this to be the case at all in during 2012 thus far?
Terrapin Station wrote:I have not been up in the area yet this year, however i'm going soon. I have not seen the inner door open since summer of 2010, and it was on one train of the 4 i rode that day. In light of the recent shootings and other events i doubt they would have the inner door open anymore.25Hz wrote:Hey, i miss the view too. I like looking at the intermodal yard now that the front view is gone, lots of interesting locomotives spotted there over the years, including UP and BNSF units far from home.You mentioned earlier that sometimes the RFW on the PA-5 cars is accessible. Have you found this to be the case at all in during 2012 thus far?
25Hz wrote:Ok thanks. Please report back what you find during your visit.Terrapin Station wrote:I have not been up in the area yet this year, however i'm going soon. I have not seen the inner door open since summer of 2010, and it was on one train of the 4 i rode that day. In light of the recent shootings and other events i doubt they would have the inner door open anymore.25Hz wrote:Hey, i miss the view too. I like looking at the intermodal yard now that the front view is gone, lots of interesting locomotives spotted there over the years, including UP and BNSF units far from home.You mentioned earlier that sometimes the RFW on the PA-5 cars is accessible. Have you found this to be the case at all in during 2012 thus far?
nyrmetros wrote:My last PATH ride to Red Bull Arena I was kind of able to squint and look through the front.It's a sad day for the NY-metro-area.
Head-end View wrote:Nyrmetros, how were you able to "squint and look throught the front?" Was the cab door swung into the "corner-cab" configuration? Normally with the cab-door closed you can't see thru it, 'cause it's a solid door. And you can't see thru the little window in the left side, except into the left side of the cab.You can see through the hinges of the cab door and view the driver's area and a bit of the driver's side window.... But doing that makes you look kind of suspicious.
Head-end View wrote:Nyrmetros, how were you able to "squint and look throught the front?" Was the cab door swung into the "corner-cab" configuration? Normally with the cab-door closed you can't see thru it, 'cause it's a solid door. And you can't see thru the little window in the left side, except into the left side of the cab.The train operator left the cab door open ever so slightly. I was standing next to the door straining my neck to get a look. I probably looked like I was twitching to other people on the train. lol.
nyrmetros wrote:No one really cares if you look weird, they are usually too busy lost in their own lil world. Talked with a PA engineer (physical plant, not T/O) from by the yard past harrison station all the way to grove street all abut their plans for the future of the system and the stuff they've recently corrected/updated. We agreed that not being able to see out the front of the train was weird & had no real reason. Riders had no input on the design. We also laughed at the tv-info screens which are only useful if you're 5 foot 5 or sitting on the opposing side due to the grab bar being in the way. The one bridge was opening so i got to talk to him for a good 30 minutes. He was telling me that a few of his engineer (train operator) friends do keep the inner door closed forward during the daytime, but at night they close it across.Head-end View wrote:Nyrmetros, how were you able to "squint and look throught the front?" Was the cab door swung into the "corner-cab" configuration? Normally with the cab-door closed you can't see thru it, 'cause it's a solid door. And you can't see thru the little window in the left side, except into the left side of the cab.The train operator left the cab door open ever so slightly. I was standing next to the door straining my neck to get a look. I probably looked like I was twitching to other people on the train. lol.
Head-end View wrote:BTW, some time ago I told the Port Authority what I thought of their new cab design via e-mail thru their website, and they responded that they needed the full-cab design so they could mount the newly required "positive-train-control" equipment in the left-side of the cab. I don't buy that of course. I think it was just public-relations B/S, but that was their official response to my inquiry.Especially since they are going with CBTC for their new signalling system and all the necessary equipment was factory-installed on the cars. I'll go with the P/R B/S as well on that.....
