by Clean Cab
Note from Site Admin: Merging in some topics, sorry to hijack original post:
Here's the most current list of MUs that are stored in the "Bone Yard" tracks (#s 41 to 45) in New Haven. Most of these cars are out of service due to structural or fire damage. Some have been out of service for 5 years now.
M2s: 8450, 8808, 8529, 8748, 8426, 8523, 8535
M4s: 8911, 8902, 8967
M6s: 9026, 9077, 9027
Plus about 12 VRE coaches including all three cab control cars.
Jeff Smith wrote:Okay, I know I'm jumping the gun JUST A BIT, but with the recent snowstorms, related breakdowns, and (hopefully) imminent introduction of the M-8's, I thought I'd start this thread to track retirements, in- and out-of-service car counts, prioritizing repairs and cannibalizing remaining pairs, etc. I think there is a link to an article in here somewhere else on this as well concerning the fact that MNRR will have to pay for the M-2s to be scrapped vs. selling them for scrap (environmental issues; these ain't Redbirds).
Here's the snow article(s): http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Rail" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 951211.php
On the eve of the winter's third big snowstorm, nearly a quarter of the state's weather-vulnerable M-2 rail car fleet has been knocked out of service by snow-related problems, raising concerns about having enough rolling stock to provide service through the cold months, Metro-North Railroad President Howard Permut said.Another M-2 article circa the first snow-storm: http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 933008.php
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Some 172 of the 228 M-2 cars serving the MTA's New Haven Line are in running order, fewer than the 186 typically needed to avoid running diesel locomotives.
The state plans to begin phasing out the worn-out M-2 cars gradually as the state's new fleet of M-8 rail cars go into service.
Indeed commuters were reminded of the shortcomings of the M-2 rail cars when service was suspended because of the recent blizzard and about 30 cars had to be sidelined. Even a moderate snowfall can knock out or severely delay New Haven Line service.Here's the original scrap thread: viewtopic.php?f=67&t=77380&hilit=scrap
"When the snow is of the fine, granular variety, basically what happens is that the flakes get sucked into the electronics, it melts and freezes, and then you have a block of ice where you used to have a transformer," said Jim Cameron, chairman of the Connecticut Metro-North Commuters Council. "Even on a good day, 10 or 15 percent of the fleet is in the shop."
Here's the original CT Post article on scrapping from that thread: http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Next" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 866796.php
With the first of the state's new Kawasaki M-8 rail cars expected in service within weeks, Metro-North Railroad and state transportation officials will soon choose a company to gradually scrap the state's aged fleet of 235 M-2 cars, officials said.
Metro-North plans to begin retiring the cars this winter, beginning with 89 that were not revamped as part of a $75 million Critical Systems Replacement program begun in 2004 to keep cars running past their expected 30- to 35-year life span, spokeswoman Marjorie Anders said. The first General Electric-built M-2s were delivered in 1973.
The pending contract will also include disposal of more than 250 worn out New York City subway cars, Anders said.
"We're in the process of reviewing proposals from companies interested in scrapping the old cars," she said. "We expect to award the contract in January and begin scrapping M-2 cars early next year."
Here's the most current list of MUs that are stored in the "Bone Yard" tracks (#s 41 to 45) in New Haven. Most of these cars are out of service due to structural or fire damage. Some have been out of service for 5 years now.
M2s: 8450, 8808, 8529, 8748, 8426, 8523, 8535
M4s: 8911, 8902, 8967
M6s: 9026, 9077, 9027
Plus about 12 VRE coaches including all three cab control cars.
I'm stuck on a sandbar on Cape Cod, and I couldn't be happier!!!