CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by Ridgefielder » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:57 pm

Is that the one between Fordham and Botanical Garden?

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by Train2009 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:12 pm

Ridgefielder wrote:Is that the one between Fordham and Botanical Garden?
Yes.

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by shlustig » Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:46 am

Sounds like they have restored old "BG" interlocking that was removed 60 or so years ago.

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:03 am

Let me guess, this brand new interlocking will enable express trains that stop at Fordham to switch on to the middle tracks afterwards when heading points northeast?

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:18 am

yup or new haven trains making Fordham inbound to get around a local harlem train making woodlawn williams bridge or botanical gardens .
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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by Traingeek3629 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:49 am

Does this mean Metro-North will have more New Haven-bound trains stopping at Fordham?
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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by DutchRailnut » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:15 pm

nope your reading to much into it.
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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by Noel Weaver » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:57 pm

I remember the interlocking at BG from my early days firing. The crossovers were not used very much and at the end the tower was only open one trick a day Monday through Friday. The railroad did not have nearly the density of traffic back in the 60's that it has today so I think it can be a useful addition. Seems to me when they demolished the tower itself they lifted it up with a crane and moved it away from the tracks before they actually did the job. Does anybody else remember this?
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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by DutchRailnut » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:08 pm

darn Noel you think we are that old :-)
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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:20 pm

I don't think too many people would be very happy if more trains to New Haven stopped at Fordham. It adds some time to the schedule plus they are often very crowded after leaving Grand Central Terminal and 125th St.

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by Backshophoss » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:24 am

Was BG remoted to JO at some point?
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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by ExCon90 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:16 pm

njt/mnrrbuff wrote:I don't think too many people would be very happy if more trains to New Haven stopped at Fordham. It adds some time to the schedule plus they are often very crowded after leaving Grand Central Terminal and 125th St.
It also cuts line capacity when one express crossing over ties up both tracks 1 and 3, or 2 and 4, including time needed to slow down and accelerate before and after the actual stop. You see the same thing at MetroPark and Trenton.

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:51 pm

ExCon90, that is very true and a good example of that is the majority of NJT's 3900 series trains skipping MetroPark and New Brunswick. For them to make those stops, they would have to cross over to the outer tracks and that can cost those passengers a few minutes. I don't think Amtrak appreciates it when NJT trains have to constantly cross from the outer to the inner tracks on the NEC. Plus, they are often very crowded to begin with as many NYC commuters live down in Mercer County . Plus, people living across the Delaware River in towns in Lower Bucks County who work in NYC or want to go to NYC to sightsee contribute to the crowds on those super express 3900 series trains.

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Re: CP 109 Gets Cut In This Weekend

Post by Rockingham Racer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:27 am

Backshophoss wrote:Was BG remoted to JO at some point?
Not in the early late 60's or so. Can't tell you about before that. BG is where outbound trains hit the bell at JO [Woodlawn] IIRC.

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