#14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Rbts Stn wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:10 am
Sounds expensive. I've ridden on one of the new cars and the monitors are nice, but I'm not sure we need to spend more money for more of them. Get intelligible announcements and maybe an ceiling mounted sign with station info and you should be good to go
The train cars already in service have the extra, larger, displays installed now. This would be an upgrade for the additional cars.
I rode one of the trains the other day which was quite crowded and the displays weren't visible anyway, so even with the additional screens, they're of limited value at peak times.
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/ ... r-upgrades

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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chrisf wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:12 am
Rbts Stn wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:10 am
Sounds expensive. I've ridden on one of the new cars and the monitors are nice, but I'm not sure we need to spend more money for more of them. Get intelligible announcements and maybe an ceiling mounted sign with station info and you should be good to go
The train cars already in service have the extra, larger, displays installed now. This would be an upgrade for the additional cars.
I rode one of the trains the other day which was quite crowded and the displays weren't visible anyway, so even with the additional screens, they're of limited value at peak times.
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/ ... r-upgrades
I had no choice but to watch the screen as I was jammed up against it during rush hour on a day that my S. Station train stopped at Ruggles for a medical emergency. Was REALLY easy to see it from 5 inches away

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Has there been a hold up of cars hitting MBTA property it seems like no pairs have arrived since 1412/13 came in last year?
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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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It looks like they are running some odd sets on the orange line.

I notice a set with a New Orange car in the lead. But most of the train was still the old cars. Odd. I didn't know they could pair them together.

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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The new cars' couplers are mechanically compatible so they can tow or be towed. They are NOT electrically compatible, so you will never see them in mixed consists in revenue service.

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

Post by RenegadeMonster »

I saw this on a revenue train this morning at Sullivan Square. A inbound train.

It looked like there was 1 new orange line car out front, the rest of the train was old cars. I thought I was going crazy thinking there must have been a pair of them.

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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From the specification (emphasis added):
D. Vehicle design (including mechanical coupling, anti-climber height, etc.) shall be compatible with existing vehicles. The new vehicles will not be operated in consists with existing vehicles, so electrical and pneumatic coupling/trainline compatibility shall not be required. (Addendum No. 8)
Link to spec here, search for "compatibility":
https://bc.mbta.com/uploadedfiles/Busin ... sions).pdf

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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If you've wondered " when will another pair of new orange line cars arrive ", 1414/1415 according to the inventory page were delivered earlier this month. So we have 16 (completely-built) new orange line cars delivered. One more pair and then there will be a third trainset. The board last month said a third trainset will be ready by late this month but if they don't have one more pair delivered by this month, that will not come true.

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

Post by johnpbarlow »

I was walking past the Mass Ave Orange Line station on Thursday evening (after dining at New York Pizza) and heard a robo arrival announcement over the station PA system something to the effect of "Now arriving - a train to Forest Hills of brand new Orange Line cars".

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

Post by TurningOfTheWheel »

I believe it's a new Frank Oglesby recorded announcement. Can't remember if the text-to-speech announcements mention the new trains.
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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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1416/1417 has arrived so there soon in a few weeks there will be a third trainset ready for service.

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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TurningOfTheWheel wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:30 am
I believe it's a new Frank Oglesby recorded announcement. Can't remember if the text-to-speech announcements mention the new trains.
Today's technology should allow his voice to be synthesized so he could provide announcements in perpetuity.

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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...and have the T pay a licensing fee for the use of his voice to him and his descendants in perpetuity too. :wink:

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

Post by RenegadeMonster »

Reported on the news this morning. All new Orange Line trains have been taken out of service today and will remain out of service for some time as they work on resolving an issue.

Anyone know what that issue is?

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Re: #14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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From an MBTA Tweet this morning:

The new Orange Line trains have been temporarily taken out of service. Inspectors identified a fault with the bolsters which is being corrected to ensure the vehicles are reliable & safe for the duration of their service lives. We expect to return them to service later this week.

https://twitter.com/MBTA/status/1234780 ... 57888?s=20

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