#14 Orange Line Cars 1400-1551 (From Red/Orange Procurement discussion)

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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I would think you would always want to use Feddybucks. But the CRRC underbid was so large that it probably works out okay for Taxxachu$$ett$.

I recently drove by the CRRC plant at night. Couldn't see much though the fencing. The CRRC logo is creepy.

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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BandA wrote:But the CRRC underbid was so large that it probably works out okay for Taxxachu$$ett$.
Only if the orders are ToT (Time on Target), no major technical hiccups or ECO (Engineering Change Orders). And we can get at least 35 years out of them before GOHs (General Overhauls). Wow three (3) acronyms!
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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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CRRC is trying to make their reputation on this order. Plus I think they should be able to find enough trainable, competent workers in the area. As for 35 years before GOH, that's the area that's gonna fail. I imagine they would also have plenty of managers/supervisors that want to work in USA that they won't have the problems that Hyundai-Rotem had. Dealing with U.S. unions is presumably a culture shock for them. (I'm just assuming they are unionized).

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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dieciduej wrote:Only if the orders are ToT (Time on Target), no major technical hiccups or ECO (Engineering Change Orders). And we can get at least 35 years out of them before GOHs (General Overhauls). Wow three (3) acronyms!
True, but, the use of federal funding vs state only funding won't change the end results of this.
BandA wrote:I would think you would always want to use Feddybucks. But the CRRC underbid was so large that it probably works out okay for Taxxachu$$ett$.
Strange how Massachusetts continually ranks middle of the pack of all states in tax burden.

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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I saw a six pack of new Orange Line cars on the test track between Wellington and Sullivan on my trip home. Do the greatest photo since it was going away. Before you know it we'll have a case of cars! :P
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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Ariel view (both old and new)
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marlowe wrote:Ariel view
Doesn't look like you're under the sea, to me!



I appreciate the full consist shots, guys. They look pretty sleek.

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I was looking at the top picture, and wondering why it was laying on it's side...only to click on it and realize the embedded image was rotated...
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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Saw it parked on the express track at Sullivan last night.

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Mind the gap

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Testing has been going on for a while now.
I hear about it at work where I am helping out with the car documentation.

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And now today, there will be another trainset delivered later today from Springfield to Wellington Rail Yard for their formal introduction of the new OR Cars to civilian riders
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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Do we have any sense of how well the tests of the new Orange Line cars are going? Have they picked up on any issues, or do the cars seem to be relatively clean?

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Saw an orange line car headed east by truck with state police escort on the Mass Pike at the Auburn interchange at around 10:30AM 1/3/18. For unknown reason, it was crawling down the highway with traffic behind it stopped by the police escort.

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Re: New Orange and Red Line Car Acquisition Process

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Wow, I thought for sure they would have delivered them by rail. Not by truck. That's a cool sight.

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