Yard 21 - Somerville

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by F-line to Dudley via Park » Fri May 20, 2016 2:02 pm

Mystic Wharf's also not got a lot of space between grade crossings for stuffing anything longish, and is a vulnerable place for security with open access just about everywhere and difficult monitoring because of the blind spots created by the I-93 decks. Yard 21 by contrast is in end-to-end constant view of Transit Police on the Orange Line and the maint crews milling around the rail/tie piles along the north leg of the freight wye. It's also blocked by a retaining wall + fence from allowing any too-easy trespasser access from the neighborhood side streets.


Massport's got all kinds of long-range plans in the hopper for the Mystic Wharf Branch, but they're all freight. That'll never be, even in reactivated state, any sort of useful or non-awkward place to store MOW equipment.

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by dieciduej » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:14 pm

Looks like the Yard 21 lead is closed.

On the way home, northbound on the Orange Line, I noticed the old flats with old rail panels and so on were gone on the Yard 21 lead. Now three empty flats are there, a little further south than the old set and then a new barricade have been erected on both tracks.

Did anything happen to case the closing or have things just deteriorated to the point of no return?

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by BostonUrbEx » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:27 pm

Wide gauge defects were found by the FRA today, possibly found as a result of an investigation of a prior incident not involving the wide gauge. With all the Boston traffic and lack of MOW space, I'm sure it'll be fixed ASAP.

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by dieciduej » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:05 am

I'd be worried when shoving/pulling 1789 marked tank cars down there.

What ever they do for fixing they first have to start with some serious weed killing. Someone is going to need an ocean of calamine lotion.

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by deathtopumpkins » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:31 am

BostonUrbEx wrote:Wide gauge defects were found by the FRA today, possibly found as a result of an investigation of a prior incident not involving the wide gauge. With all the Boston traffic and lack of MOW space, I'm sure it'll be fixed ASAP.
Would this incident have been last week? I meant to post but never got around to it - one morning last week, I think Friday, there were at least a dozen people in a mix of Pan Am and MBTA vests standing around a covered hopper at the beginning of the "yard".
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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by dieciduej » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:10 am

I noticed the leads to the old Yard 21 in Somerville have been cleared of all trees and invasive vines. I am sure someone on that crew will need an ocean of calamine lotion! :P

There are several places where the retaining wall would need some repair and or replacement. Any guess if they will be replacing the tracks so they can gain some car storage or switching room?
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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by GP40MC1118 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:01 am

Yes, this is work to make these two tracks more usable again. Will be desperately needed once
PAR loses Yard 8/Willey Track.

Hopefully this will put the bike people on notice its still an active railroad. There is a group that wants to
connect the bike/walkway path from the Mystic River to the Community Path being built concurrent with GLX.
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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by ceo » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:05 pm

Eh, it's perfectly reasonable to keep one track and convert the other. If the Northern Strand Trail is extended across the Mystic River as planned, the Mystic to Charles Connector will be a crucial link in what could be a *huge* connected network of multi-use paths.

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by Trinnau » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:12 pm

Unless the railroad intends to utilize both tracks in light of the removal of (what's left of) yard 8.
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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by Arborwayfan » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:30 pm

PSA: they can now give you a shot of some steroid or other to clear up poison ivy. I got PI last spring and was itching away until someone at work asked me what they had given me for it. Given me for it, I asked? So I went down to our company health clinic and got a short and boom, a lot better in a few hours.

Not exactly a railroad topic, but also not irrelevant to railfans. (The best crop of poison ivy I ever saw was on the abandoned Dedham branch about 1991, before the trail was built, when my girlfriend and I were following the old rails and turned back because of massive PI blocking the whole cut, hanging off the granite retaining wall, etc.)

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by newpylong » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:56 pm

ceo wrote:Eh, it's perfectly reasonable to keep one track and convert the other. If the Northern Strand Trail is extended across the Mystic River as planned, the Mystic to Charles Connector will be a crucial link in what could be a *huge* connected network of multi-use paths.
No, it's more reasonable for the path to go somewhere else and the tracks used for what they were intended for.

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by GP40MC1118 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:47 am

Not to mention that two tracks are needed not only for capacity/storage requirements, but to runaround cars/trains.

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by jonnhrr » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:51 am

Is there a map of some kind that identifies where these various yards are?

Were there really that many yards on the former B&M in the Boston area, or did they just like to use random numbers?

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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by CRail » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:22 am

There were really that many.
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Re: Yard 21 - Somerville

Post by The EGE » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:01 pm

Not labeled unfortunately, but these 1893, 1899, and 1902 maps show the turn-of-the-century changes.

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