• Providence line owner ship

  • Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.
Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by kitn1mcc
 
Over on Radio Reference there has been some discussion about PTC. and MBTA dragging there heals. some one said that Amtrak runs on MBTA tracks from what i understand its Amtrak's RR from New Haven to Boston. this piece of info some one referenced https://www.mbta.com/uploadedfiles/Busi ... ummary.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


any info would be helpful
  by deathtopumpkins
 
MassDOT owns from the state line to Boston, and contracts with Amtrak for maintenance.
  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
MBTA owns the ROW from state line to Boston and obviously does everything related to the stations Amtrak doesn't share. But Amtrak is the dispatcher and track maintainer for the whole line, and each party's future improvements bucket list is jointly co-signed on the NEC Improvements Master Plan.

The two parties are generally sympatico with each other's aims, but technically Amtrak is the one in day-to-day control of it. Think of the T's role on the Massachusetts NEC as more "Chairman of the Board" and Amtrak's the "CEO"...the T's intimately involved in approving every executive decision, but Amtrak's the one making the hands-on calls.


On the greater-NEC route network they have ownership and control New Rochelle to D.C., New Haven to the MA state, Keystone Corridor, Empire Connection, and Springfield Line. They have no ownership but do have control for the MA NEC and Hudson Line from Poughkeepsie to Albany. They have neither ownership nor control on MNRR New Haven Line, MNRR Hudson Line south of Poughkeepsie, and south of the D.C. Union tunnel portal where the Virginia NE Regionals spit out onto CSX track the rest of the way.
  by YamaOfParadise
 
Small note: In MA, despite not owning the RoW, Amtrak does own the overhead catenary system.
  by kitn1mcc
 
ah ok now i understand. unlike here in CT NY to NH is owned by the state but operated by MNR. now does amtrak trains have priority over commuters
  by edbear
 
Amtrak dispatches the Providence route and all of its branches. Commuter trains are probably supposed to have priority because almost all of their users are on close time constraints.
  by MBTA F40PH-2C 1050
 
That is not true at all... Amtrak dispatchers only handle South Station to PVD and points west of there. The commuter branch's are handled by Keolis Dispatchers. On the Mainline, Amtrak gets priority because, 1. they travel much much faster than our trains and 2. they only make 3 stops between PVD and Boston. Very very very rarely will you see an Amtrak go behind one of our slow locals...PVD and Attleboro are the usual holding spots for Eastward trains and Readville and Attleboro are the usual holding spots for Westward trains....unless the AMTK dispatchers have time and open track, they will shotgun trains down the Mainline to overtake
  by edbear
 
I only meant the portion of the branch until they're off the corridor; Franklin, Needham, Stoughton.