By that, I presume there are no trip stops along the main line at regular intervals or signals? Or at least none in the area where this was going down?
jboutiet wrote:Out of curiosity... what would have happened here if the trainsets involved were DMUs rather than 3rd rail? How would they have stopped a DMU?I think we're getting way out into impossible speculation. The impossible speculation is the idea of a DMU equipped with a ATO bypass switch. There really isn't any scenario where that setup could currently exist. Also, would a DMU have a Cineston integrated controller? Why wouldn't a DMU have a more traditional heavy rail 'alerter' push button style deadman switch (that is inherently much harder to bypass with a jury-rig setup)?
Finally, I would assume that implementing new single operator DMU operations would require (or be accompanied by) some kind of more advanced positive train control system, which would reduce the likelihood of the 'red line runaway' scenario.
If this were a DMU running on the existing commuter rail network, then there are a number of scenarios:
1) Using ACSES on the Corridor: The 'need to flip the ATO bypass switch' would therefore be some sort of failure of the ACSES equipment on the DMU. I'm not sure what the procedure is, but I don't think there would be some kind of 'bypass switch' on the DMU that would allow the DMU to just run through the signals on and on.
2) Operating on cab signalled territory: The 'need to flip the ATO bypass switch' would therefore be some sort of failure of the cab signal equipment. The cabs wouldn't necessarily need to be bypassed, because cab signals are not a form of positive train control. So yes, a DMU on cab signal territory without some form of PTC and with a Cineston controller that could get tied up with a cord could go runaway. But I find the idea of creating a DMU which has cab signal capabilities but no PTC hard to believe given today's move towards PTC.
3) Operating on non-cab signalled or just warrant controlled territory: There would never be a need to 'flip the ATO bypass' switch because there would be no PTC (ATO) system to bypass. So this scenario can't even get off the drawing board. But yes, a DMU without any form of PTC and with a Cineston controller that could get tied up with a cord could go runaway.
The root cause of the red line runaway was lack of adherence to procedures, exacerbated by a design which made the procedures relatively easy to bypass (namely a throttle controller which could be tied up, and maybe even an ATO bypass switch that could be operated without the brakes being engaged or some other preventative interlock in place).
Having two operators present for the flip of the bypass switch probably is the quickest fix, but an engineered solution would be better.
On the newer red line fleet, is the throttle controller / deadman setup less prone to tampering? Is the ATO bypass switch better interlocked to the throttle or brake controls?