Anyone know what that box was by the train door on some of the #1 and 2 Main Line Cars?
They seem to have appeared and then vanished.
Mike
They seem to have appeared and then vanished.
Mike
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The MTA Blue Egg wrote:Anyone know what that box was by the train door on some of the #1 and 2 Main Line Cars?Looks like a canvas shield to keep rain from getting into the lock on the screen, and them freezing. Only the screens had locks, not the doors. Seems to have been added to the cars when vestibuled, and dropped when the No. 3 cars arrived.
They seem to have appeared and then vanished.
Mike
Type7trolley wrote:It looks like it has some sort of connection to the headlight, perhaps something electrical? And it looks removable since it's blocking the door. Maybe a low voltage battery that hung on the front car and plugged into the headlight? Then again, not sure why that wouldn't run on whatever circuit the interior lighting did.You may have solved it in a roundabout way. The car has enclosed vestibules, but no levers or switches to operate the doors. This may have been a temporary installation of the six-button door control, battery powered, so it didn't require enclosed wiring. You can see the door levers on 0151. The center door still required a platform man with a key.
jboutiet wrote:It could have been taking power from the headlamp, not the other way around.The headlight was one of a string of 5 across 600 volts - no way.
The MTA Blue Egg wrote:Apparently those boxes stayed when trains were laid up.I don't know if they wereAnticlimbers were a product of the No. 3 cars which were much more substantial than their predecessors. Their installation probably began shortly after the No. 3s started arriving. The boxes would have been temporary if they were used for the six button door control, and probably were installed on one or two trains for test purposes. Some wooden cars continued in service into the 1920s, the last being replaced by the No. 9s.
just on the front and end of a train or were on the end of each unit.
Note the anti-climber added to the front of car 0101. It appears some wooden cars got them
some didn't.
Mike
The MTA Blue Egg wrote:Sounds good to me Gerry. It got me to thinking, the 45 #3 cars were delivered without anti-climbers.The anticlimber was intended to prevent telescoping, when two cars collide and one rides up into the other's body, resulting in massive casualties. Good example of the effect of anticlimbers is the 1974 collision in the Beacon Hill Tunnel. 01427, a steel car, struck o1604, an aluminum car. Without anticlimbers, the steel car would have plowed through the aluminum car. The anticlimbers transmitted the impact to the car frames, which absorbed the impact. The steel car bent upwards at the center. The end of the aluminum car accordioned, crushing the cab. Both cars were total losses, but there were (IIRC) no fatalities, and only a few major injuries.
(The Elevated did train wood and steel cars together though)
The #4 cars (0220-0239) built by Pressed Steel in 1911 were consructed with anti-climbers, which were by that
time, an industry standard.
I'm guessing that the Elevated experimented with different anti-climber designs.
Mike
jonnhrr wrote:"Guards between every pair of cars were not completely eliminated until 1918."That is when Guards for every two cars were instituted. Prior to that is was possible to have a guard at each end of every car, except the first and last where the doors didn't open. MUDC, introduced ca. 1930, did two things, tied all doors on a car to one switch, and made it possible for one guard to operate several cars. On behalf of the union the legislature then passed the "Guard Law".
At what point where Guards for every 2 cars brought back? It was that way in the 1960's and later until the Guard law was repealed.
Jon