Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

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Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by davinp » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:32 am

An increase in CSX freight trains operating in the Washington region has led to significant delays and worsening commutes for the thousands of passengers who ride commuter trains that share the same track, according to transit officials in Maryland and Virginia.

MARC and VRE say on-time performance has dropped dramatically this summer all thanks to CSX.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tr ... 59f38578fc

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by Backshophoss » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:15 pm

EHH's legacy has now turned into an outright war on passenger trains across CSX.
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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by zuckie13 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:26 pm

The issue is that more track capacity is needed. CSX (and NS I suppose since they are half the VRE problem) are not going to add an additional track or two out of their own pocket. That's something that the states will have to fund if they really want to add any capacity.

Make it a deal like this: "We pay for it and get exclusive use of those new tracks from 6am to 10am and 3pm to 7pm on weekdays and some guaranteed use mid-day and on weekends. You maintain and operate them after we build it and get the extra capacity."

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by mmi16 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:05 pm

These lines were a part of my territory when I was working - FORTUNATELY I retired in December 2016 before the EHH putsch.

I have no fear that the Baltimore Division operating plan has been changed to the extent that MARC & VRE as well as Amtrak no longer exist from a Train Dispatchers planning process for his railroad. There is no doubt in my mind, that the 'plan' is that VRE, MARC and Amtrak trains will just follow whatever CSX trains happen to be on the railroad when the departure times for the scheduled trains happen.

One strike against VRE is that between Fredricksburg and AF the station locations of VRE require all trains to be operated on CSX #2 track as additional time consuming actions have to be taken if VRE is operated on #3 track - those actions are time consuming for both the VRE trains and for CSX protection of the moves.
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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by mtuandrew » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:47 pm

mmi16: in reference to CSX track 2, what is AF?

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by dgvrengineer » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:27 pm

AF is the interlocking in Alexandria where CSX and NS split.

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by srepetsk » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:34 pm

mtuandrew wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:47 pm
mmi16: in reference to CSX track 2, what is AF?
Here's a diagram of the area in question, from the Long Bridge down to AF. AF is the southern end of where Virginia is planning to install a fourth track to make use of the Long Bridge replacement. The interlocking is where CSX heads south and NS splits off heading southwest.

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by KTHW » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:26 am

VRE paid for and CSX just finished installing a crossover between tracks 2 and 1 at Slater’s Lane. This will give VRE AMTRAK and CSX have more operational flexibility North of AF (especially once Crystal City and Alexandria are finished being upgraded).

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by Jeff Smith » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:52 pm

AF is where the Manassas line splits from the Fredericksburg line? And the Manassas line, is that the one the Crescent runs down, or is it the Cardinal?
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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by mmi16 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:46 pm

Jeff Smith wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:52 pm
AF is where the Manassas line splits from the Fredericksburg line? And the Manassas line, is that the one the Crescent runs down, or is it the Cardinal?
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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:19 pm

At AF Interlocking, the Manassas Line, used by both the Cardinal and Crescent, splits away from the Fredericksburg Line. About the Cardinal splitting away from the Crescent, that happens well past the VRE service area in a town called Orange. At Orange, the Cardinal diverges away from the Crescent route and takes what's called the Buckingham Branch which runs through places like Gordonsville. At Charlottesville, both the Crescent and Cardinal route cross each other on a diamond. Each route has their own platform.

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Re: Increase in CSX Freight Traffic causing delays for VRE & MARC trains

Post by STrRedWolf » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:06 pm

For the MARC, freight interference is also an issue... and more tracks is only one part of the solution.

Take any freight that's southbound from Martinsburg heading into Virginia. The most direct route involves crossing over at the following interlocks: QN, then F, then JD. Then it's clear of any MARC territory and heading straight to VRE territory. That's at least one blocking crossover...

Take the auto freight from Jessup... or anything from Leadenhall yard... or Bayview... or points north. You got a blocking crossover.

More track in general is nice, but you're going to need flyovers as well. Add that to the bill.
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