MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

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MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by RailVet » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:48 pm

Page 7 of the April 2018 issue of Railpace has a paragraph that reads:

Overcrowding Relief: NJ Governor Phil Murphy announced plans to place more than 40 railcars back into service on NJ Transit as an attempt to relieve overcrowded trains. NJ Transit is short by 38 cars to operate its full daily schedule. Plans are to place 20 passenger cars back into service that have been out of service awaiting installation of Positive Train Control equipment. In addition, 20 coaches will be leased from the Maryland Transit Administration (MARC). The leased MTA equipment will allow for spare cars to substitute for NJT equipment that is out of service for repair. In exchange, NJ Transit will be sending an older locomotive to the MTA for use on the Maryland commuter routes. To expedite the repair of NJ Transit equipment, the agency plans to outsource some work. Also, NJT will work with vendors to have parts more readily available. (I added the underlining for emphasis.)

Does anyone know the numbers on the MARC coaches going to NJT or the roadnumber of the NJT locomotive coming to MARC?

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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by twropr » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:19 pm

I was told by NJt that a GP 40 sent to MARC is being traded for ten MARC single-level coaches (no money exchanged). Was not provided with any numbers.
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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by blockline4180 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:33 pm

It was originally supposed to be 20 MARC commuter cars going to NJT, but now it will just be one 10 car set. Presumably not enough MARC cars available as at least 12 are going to Amtrak for GCT service and another batch to LIRR.
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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by DogBert » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:35 am

blockline4180 wrote:It was originally supposed to be 20 MARC commuter cars going to NJT, but now it will just be one 10 car set. Presumably not enough MARC cars available as at least 12 are going to Amtrak for GCT service and another batch to LIRR.
How many Marc cars are available? Does Amtrak need 12? I was under the assumption they just needed cab cars for GCT. Last year the rumor was LIRR would get as many as 21 Marc cars for summer this year.

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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by Backshophoss » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:29 pm

Might be 10-15 cars for LIRR,as they did some off season testing with a C-3 Cab car last year.
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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by MCL1981 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:29 am

MARC traded 10 passenger cars for 50 year old locomotive???? We just bought 8 new Chargers and rehabbed the HHPs. WTF do we need a GP40 for???

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Post by andrewjw » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:49 am

MCL1981 wrote:MARC traded 10 passenger cars for 50 year old locomotive???? We just bought 8 new Chargers and rehabbed the HHPs. WTF do we need a GP40 for???
They loaned the passenger cars (which are providing no benefit sitting around on the property, and are old themselves) in exchange for ownership of the locomotive, if I'm not mistaken.

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Post by blockline4180 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:54 am

andrewjw wrote:
MCL1981 wrote:MARC traded 10 passenger cars for 50 year old locomotive???? We just bought 8 new Chargers and rehabbed the HHPs. WTF do we need a GP40 for???
They loaned the passenger cars (which are providing no benefit sitting around on the property, and are old themselves) in exchange for ownership of the locomotive, if I'm not mistaken.
Interesting... Didn't realize they bought the NJT locomotive outright... Thought it was just a lease.. Or is that what you meant?
Regardless, can ya'll be on the lookout when the 10 car (set?) heads north??
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Post by Backshophoss » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:56 pm

Figure on that NJT loco to be used as work train power,or as an switcher in the yards.
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Post by andrewjw » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:12 pm

blockline4180 wrote:
andrewjw wrote:
MCL1981 wrote:MARC traded 10 passenger cars for 50 year old locomotive???? We just bought 8 new Chargers and rehabbed the HHPs. WTF do we need a GP40 for???
They loaned the passenger cars (which are providing no benefit sitting around on the property, and are old themselves) in exchange for ownership of the locomotive, if I'm not mistaken.
Interesting... Didn't realize they bought the NJT locomotive outright... Thought it was just a lease.. Or is that what you meant?
Regardless, can ya'll be on the lookout when the 10 car (set?) heads north??
From what I've read the locomotive ownership transfer is permanant (not leased), and much less currency is changing hands (the locomotive is payment in kind for the loan of passenger cars).

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Post by STrRedWolf » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:12 am

MCL1981 wrote:MARC traded 10 passenger cars for 50 year old locomotive???? We just bought 8 new Chargers and rehabbed the HHPs. WTF do we need a GP40 for???
* Looks at the Odenton Protect engine 68, which is a GP40WH-2 *

Oh, I think having some GP40's around will be useful if MARC has to rescue a train...
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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by blockline4180 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:30 pm

Looks like according to the post in NJT forum it is indeed the 4145 that MARC is getting.. From my experiences up here in NJ it does still have a HEP package so anything is possible in terms of using it for revenue service.... Dont they still have a few geeps of their own that they currently use with the single level cars??
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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by D40LF » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:19 pm

blockline4180 wrote:Looks like according to the post in NJT forum it is indeed the 4145 that MARC is getting.. From my experiences up here in NJ it does still have a HEP package so anything is possible in terms of using it for revenue service.... Dont they still have a few geeps of their own that they currently use with the single level cars??
Yes, 5 of the 6 GP39s are still used in revenue service (they were supposed to be re-powered, but that never happened). When they run solo, they usually pull only 3 to 4 cars. 68 still has its HEP generator, so it can pull revenue trains as well.

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Post by blockline4180 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:51 pm

D40LF wrote:
Yes, 5 of the 6 GP39s are still used in revenue service (they were supposed to be re-powered, but that never happened). When they run solo, they usually pull only 3 to 4 cars. 68 still has its HEP generator, so it can pull revenue trains as well.
Did the NJT geep make it down there?? Photos elsewhere on the internet show about 8 MARC cars sitting at 30th Street in Philly on Saturday morning.
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Re: MARC cars going to NJT; NJT locomotive coming to MARC

Post by RailVet » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:44 am

MARC responded to a request for information by stating: "Per management, Cars 7700-7708 and 7714 are going to NJT. We do not know the unit number we are getting as of this time." The loco number has been provided by others in this forum. Thanks!

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