LIRR C-Liner engines

[FrankAndCindy]

Hello, Does anyone know if the old Fairbanks Morse sea liners were ever double headed? Thanks, Frank And Cindy

[DutchRailnut]

that would be C-liner and no they were not.
engines are MUed not double headed .

[FrankAndCindy]

Hello, You Sir are being extremely picky. I wonder if my 35 years of RAILROAD experience surpasses yours. Thank you sir Frank and Cindy

[DutchRailnut]

close my career is wee bit shorter , but I know what a C-Liner is and what a railroad double header is

[RGlueck]

The name "C-Liner" came from FM's catalogue, naming it the "Consolidated Line" of Diesels.ergo "C-Liner". In Spanish, "Si' Liner".

At the San Diego Zoo, "Sea Lions", but that's immaterial. Prime Movers from some of the LIRR FM units saw secondary lives in ship applications, some in Viet Nam. Viet Nam was once a French colony, so they could be "Oui Liners" as well.

I hope this hasn't been helpful.

[Head-end View]

I read somewhere that the C-Liners could not run MUed. One could tow another but they could not be used to double the power to a train.

[nyandw]

I read somewhere that the C-Liners could not run MUed. One could tow another but they could not be used to double the power to a train.

I've never a photo of two or more pulling a consist MUed. Double headed (each operated individually by its Steam engine crew) would not apply in this case.

Here's a teaser:
At Richmond Hill yard.. NOT on the ROW.

[newkirk]

Sorry for going off topic a bit, but are there any Fairbanks-Morse "C" liners in existence anywhere ?

[DutchRailnut]

2 in Canada.

[452 Card]

lirr2008_FM-CPA20-5_Train-in-reverse_Jamaica-06-24-55_Faxon-Keller.jpg

See?--No MU hoses on the B end-- Liner!

[scopelliti]

Was just about to post that photo. Yeah,no MU hoses. Also, note the rear light which I have not seen on any models. I mocked up one on a spare C-Liner shell. Needs some work,but getting there...

rear light 2403 model.jpg

[452 Card]

I just noticed a detail from the pic I posted. There is an ASC pickup bar on the B end of that engine. They must have operated them backwards in ASC territory on a usual basis. There could be no other reason for it to be there. Maybe, with the door window, there was a control stand back there? Also, MTH blew it too, no headlight on the B end and they also included a coach-type bellows. IMO- that pic was taken on the day I was born! LOL

[RGlueck]

I have been told that C-Liners did operate in tandem on Montauk trains, but two crews were required. This was a rare operation.

[Backshophoss]

MU was an extra cost when FM built the C-Liners for LIRR,they normally worked as single units,would need 2 engine crews if 2 C-Liners were on
a train to Montauk.

[nyandw]

Has anyone ever seen photos of two C-Liners in action, a train order Form 19, etc. That would indicate "double heading" (non-MU capability) as the OP asked about.... Two of these lashed together with each under engineer control? What am I missing?