M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by BuddR32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:27 pm

Keep them in the testing phase forever! I'm in no rush to see 40 M3s go to the cutter. All we'll be left with is 80 of them, for a finite amount of time.

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by Fan Railer » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:38 pm

M9s entering revenue service tomorrow.

http://www.mta.info/press-release/lirr/ ... s-tomorrow?

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by Backshophoss » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:54 pm

So the Port Jefferson branch gets the 1st M-9 sets.
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by Head-end View » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:58 pm

Re: the new power button operated end-doors, any bets on how long 'til they start to crap-out? Anyone know if there is a manual override for them for normal passenger movement or emergency evacuation? There better be, or there will be a major scandal at some point. :(

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by gregorygrice » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:08 pm

Head-end View wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:58 pm
Re: the new power button operated end-doors, any bets on how long 'til they start to crap-out? Anyone know if there is a manual override for them for normal passenger movement or emergency evacuation? There better be, or there will be a major scandal at some point. :(
They operate and have the the same reliability as the ones on the M8s. You can manually slide the door if you wanted to.

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by Head-end View » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:12 pm

Okay thanks! As long as you can manually slide the door if necessary, then there's no problem. Good to hear! :-D

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by iFindTrains » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:13 pm

How many train sets do they legitimately have ready?

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by AlKaLI » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:04 am

Heard on 880 WCBS-AM that a set of M-9s were to start revenue service this morning on the 6:50 AM from Huntington to Atlantic Terminal (Brooklyn) Train 1621? Then it would go to other branches. 8-car set apparently. Any photos or videos? AlKaLI

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by gamer4616 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:40 am

That train is a Hunterspoint Ave train.


The cycle this morning was:

4606 (Non-Passenger)
Hillside 443AM
Huntington 533AM

1621
Huntington 650AM
Hunterspoint Ave 748AM
(Layup Long Island City)

4800 (Non-Passenger)
Long Island City 900AM
Jamaica 919AM
(Layup Johnson Ave Yard)


It would be scheduled to operate as the following:

4367 (non-passenger)
Jamaica 432PM
Penn Station 452PM

762
Penn Station 504PM
Hempstead 557PM

3751 (non-passenger)
Hempstead 611PM
West Side Yard 713PM

190
Penn Station 1035PM
Babylon 1132PM


Of course, things don't always go according to the scheduled manipulation of equipment, but that is what is listed as the schedule for today.

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by MattAmity90 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:24 am

LIRR Metropolitan commuter car history, and let it be known.

December 30th, 1968: The ultimate train cars of the future that seem like what you would see out of the Jetsons embarks on its' maiden voyage on a cold morning from Babylon to Penn Station. Train 93 is made up of the new Metropolitan M1 cars, marking the beginning of the modern era thanks to Governor Rockefeller. It departs at 5:52 AM and arrives at 7:10 AM. Notable LIRR employees are among the passengers including William J. Ronan, the first chairman, who would pass away at the age of 101 in 2014. From then to 1974, a total of 770 M1 cars (9001-9770) go into service replacing train cars that had been in service since the 1920's!

1984-1986: LIRR supplements the service fleet with the compatible M3 cars, which possess a different train horn and sliding conductor windows. A total of 174 cars numbered 9771-9944. Unfortunately, cars 9891-9892 become the "Ferguson Cars" and are renumbered 9945-9946.

September 10th, 1985: First M3 revenue consist originates at Jamaica and terminates at Penn Station.

1999: Long Island Rail Road signs a contract with Bombardier to build a brand new passenger car to replace the soon to be 40 year old M1 cars.

October 30th, 2002: Bombardier's new car, the M7, goes on its' inaugural passenger trip from Long Beach to Penn Station. Immediately following, from 2003-2007, the M1's are phased out after 40 years of service. On November 4th, 2006 a Farewell to the M1 fan trip is held. From 2002-2007, a total of 836 M7 cars (7001-7836) are delivered.

2014: Long Island Rail Road signs a contract with Kawasaki to replace the 174 remaining M3 cars. An entirely different fleet, designated the M9 will not be compatible with the M7. Just like the M1's, they will be numbered in the same manner as the M1's (9000 series), but possess different qualities compared to their cousins. Just like the M3's this supplements the fleet in anticipation of the Ronkonkoma Branch Double Tracking, The Third Track Project, and Eastside Access to Grand Central.

September 11th, 2019: After several delays due to testing, the first revenue M9 departs Huntington at 6:50 AM bound for Hunterspoint Avenue.

TBD: The last revenue M3, and complete scrapping of that fleet. I would love to buy a car and a mushroom light.
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This station is Babylon, this is the train to Penn Station. Stopping at: Lindenhurst, Copiague, Amityville, Massapequa Park, Massapequa, Seaford, Wantagh, Bellmore, Merrick, Freeport, Baldwin, Rockville Centre, Lynbrook, Valley Stream, Jamaica, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, Woodside, Penn Station.

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by BuddR32 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:08 am

MattAmity90 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:24 am
LIRR Metropolitan commuter car history, and let it be known.

1984-1986: LIRR supplements the service fleet with the compatible M3 cars, which possess a different train horn and sliding conductor windows. A total of 174 cars numbered 9771-9944. Unfortunately, cars 9891-9892 become the "Ferguson Cars" and are renumbered 9945-9946.

TBD: The last revenue M3, and complete scrapping of that fleet. I would love to buy a car and a mushroom light.
Good history Matt, two questions:

September 10, 1985 was the inaugural M3 run. What train was it?

What is a mushroom light?

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by MattAmity90 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:16 pm

The mushroom light (they're vanishing and being replaced) is a symbol of the LIRR since the 1960's. Found at many stations, from the temporary stations during elevation of the Babylon Branch, to the Long Beach-Far Rockaway-West Hempstead-Hempstead-Main Line, they are universal at many of the 124 stations. Although most stations have had them removed for energy efficient lights which I'm glad they are doing, but I'll miss the lights.

The M3's maiden trip on September 10th, 1985 did not originate at any of the branches' termination stations (ex. Babylon, Huntington, Port Washington etc.). It departed from Jamaica to Penn Station.

Here's a picture of them: Three of them are located on the Eastern end of Amityville, and are the original lights that have been there since August 7th, 1973.
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This station is Babylon, this is the train to Penn Station. Stopping at: Lindenhurst, Copiague, Amityville, Massapequa Park, Massapequa, Seaford, Wantagh, Bellmore, Merrick, Freeport, Baldwin, Rockville Centre, Lynbrook, Valley Stream, Jamaica, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, Woodside, Penn Station.

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by newkirk » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:19 pm

Syosset.....7:01AM
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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by nyandw » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:02 pm

Good stuff. Does anyone have the car number pairs for the run(s)? Thank you.

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Re: M9 and M9A Procurement & Acceptance

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:53 pm

Video by Max Diamond (Dj Hammers):

West to east: 9015-9016-9017-9018-9007-9008-9005-9006-9001-9002
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