Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

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Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by 452 Card » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:02 pm

Since the C1/C3 topic is clouded (and I am part of that), its time to start a "Shea Yard" discussion, I guess.
My involvement was with the Transportation Department, getting the testing done on the trainsets as they arrived. It was an interesting time in my career on the LIRR as we were pretty much separated from the mainstream politics and unnecessary oversight from those who were clueless. It was nice being in a location that was away from HQ in Jamaica.
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by Kelly&Kelly » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:01 pm

We recall those years well, as we do the Shea Car Shop, and the pit that filled with water. And flagging down trains at 60MPH to pick us up at Shea...

It was a long, long time ago.

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by mirrodie » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:39 pm

Do any photos exist of this.? And is Shea yard AKA Corona Yard?
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by newkirk » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:40 pm

mirrodie wrote: Do any photos exist of this.?
Is this what we're talking about ?
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by 452 Card » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:27 pm

PitFish! Look, they're swimming in there!
Little did we know that on December 11, 1990 we would find out how they got there. 52 inches of water at the trailer site and two out the four cars onsite flooded with brackish water from a Nor'Easter. 3004-3007 ,the first cars delivered from Tokyu Car,were on 4 track next to the trailers and got flooded and were never the same after that, electrically.
The place was always revealing some new weirdness, even after the M3 acceptance testing in 82-83. The ABB people considered the worksite to be a nuisance to them, for whatever reason. The Tokyu Car people even took us to a Mets game after hours. What a hoot!
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by Kelly&Kelly » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:01 pm

PIT FISH !

I had forgotten all about them. Think they're still there? They would be huge by now.

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by nyandw » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:45 pm

Where is this located? Thanks.

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by 452 Card » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:38 am

At the original location of the 1939 World's Fair railroad exhibit. Overhead runs a walkway that connects Shea Stadium to the Tennis Center.
While poking around the area during some down time, I discovered the remains of "Fair" interlocking's hut. Its just a concrete base with large wiring running out of it which is abandoned.
Somewhere on the net, I found old pics of the area during its heyday in '39. Maybe Arrts Arrchives.
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by ConstanceR46 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:08 pm

this is very interesting. do any other photos of the yard with the shed up exist?

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by nyandw » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:26 pm

452 Card wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:38 am
At the original location of the 1939 World's Fair railroad exhibit. Overhead runs a walkway that connects Shea Stadium to the Tennis Center.
While poking around the area during some down time, I discovered the remains of "Fair" interlocking's hut. Its just a concrete base with large wiring running out of it which is abandoned. Somewhere on the net, I found old pics of the area during its heyday in '39. Maybe Arrts Arrchives.
Maybe here: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/lirrwo ... ldfair.htm

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by 452 Card » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:29 pm

That was it, Steve! The "Fair" hut is mentioned just where I found it. It appears some later realignment of tracks in the east yard occurred after '39 sometime. The place is built on fill from ashes hauled from NYC and dumped in the meadows there over the years. Its an Environmentalists nightmare, and is always sinking with each new floodover.
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Shea Car Shed

Post by nyandw » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:06 pm

452 Card wrote "...the first cars delivered from Tokyu Car,were on 4 track..."
Folks, is this the location on track #4?
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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Shea Car Shed

Post by BuddR32 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:20 am

nyandw wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:06 pm
452 Card wrote "...the first cars delivered from Tokyu Car,were on 4 track..."
Folks, is this the location on track #4?

Track 4 Mets Station.jpgShea Car Shop location.jpg
Yes, if I remember right you have Port Wash 1 & 2, then 3 & 4 are where they currently do the Extensive Interior Cleaning of the MUs and then 5&6 are the pit tracks,which have been filled in with dirt. the MofE trailers are on this platform

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Shea Car Shed

Post by nyandw » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:24 am

BuddR32 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:20 am
nyandw wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:06 pm
452 Card wrote "...the first cars delivered from Tokyu Car,were on 4 track..."
Folks, is this the location on track #4?

Track 4 Mets Station.jpgShea Car Shop location.jpg
Yes, if I remember right you have Port Wash 1 & 2, then 3 & 4 are where they currently do the Extensive Interior Cleaning of the MUs and then 5&6 are the pit tracks,which have been filled in with dirt. the MofE trailers are on this platform
Thank you for the clarification!

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Re: Shea Yard Test Site- Dual Mode/BiLevel Trainset et al

Post by krispy » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:24 pm

mirrodie wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:39 pm
Do any photos exist of this.? And is Shea yard AKA Corona Yard?
Shea yard lies beneath the walkway to the old World's Fair station plaza to the existing walkway to Citi Field, between the LIRR station and the edge of Flushing Corona Meadows Park. Corona Yard was on the other side of No 1 Pt. Wash, and the switch leading to it may still be seen leading off into the weeds. It curved up along side Flushing Creek, although it looks like the Subway shop has encroached upon it somewhat, and the yard used to be along the creek into an area being torn up. That area was marshland reclaimed with fill/ash and is notorious for flooding, especially during the high tides. What's interesting was that was the start of the long gone Whitestone Branch, and if you poke around in Arrt's Archives, you get your fill of this.

Also interesting is one of the yard tracks at the east end of Shea Yard that was a switching lead had continued many years ago into what was once the Central RR that went from Flushing down to Floral Park and then east. I believe it was abandoned sometime in the early 1900's up to what became the Creedmore line. But you can see where it was once along the curved side of what's the Cubesmart building.

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