VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

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VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by NH2060 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:56 am

Not related to the NB and NS regional/corridor service proposal from late last year. Service would run to/from Downtown and Windsor Jct. as a multiple frequency VIA Rail commuter train:
An unsolicited proposal made by VIA Rail to HRM that will be presented to a standing committee next week has re-ignited discussion about a commuter rail service.

“We’re calling it an unsolicited proposal for lack of a better word but it’s probably a pre-proposal, to be honest,” Bedford Coun. Tim Outhit said in an interview on Friday.

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by NH2060 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:49 pm

One step closer...
On Tuesday night, Halifax regional council voted unanimously to direct staff to begin negotiations with Via Rail for a commuter rail service between Windsor Junction and downtown Halifax.

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by jp1822 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:50 pm

This is good news!!! Parts of Halifax can really get crazy at rush hour so hopefully this will help with rush hour and the city of Halifax in general.

Perfect for former RDC service, but I guess a conventional train set with either former "Heritage" type coaches will have to be used or maybe VIA can spare Renaissance equipment, especially if they have ample tables at the seating areas.....

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by jp1822 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:42 pm

So what happened to this proposal and also the one where VIA was considering a corridor type train in the Moncton area? Not sure what the specific corridor was but it was basically a "day train" in the Maritimes - on the existing CN tracks that the Ocean uses 3x per week. Or was the election won by some politico and ALL is now a dead issue?

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by Ken V » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:50 pm

Both proposals are still on the table. Last I heard, Halifax council and VIA were working out the details of the commuter service and VIA was negotiating track access with CN for the Campbellton/Moncton and Halifax/Moncton daytime service. Neither was negatively affected by recent elections.
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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by NH2060 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:01 pm

Part of me wonders if they are in fact secretly planning to plan/launch both Halifax commuter rail and Halifax-Moncton + Moncton-Campbellton round trips together at the same time. Both endeavors will certainly require not only transferring more locomotives and coaches from out west (Montreal, etc.), but also establishing a larger crew/servicing base(s) in Halifax and Moncton. Therefore combining the needs of both simultaneously would be simpler instead of doing one then the other. Also if coaches ever needed to be swapped out for any reason it would definitely help to have a larger pool of equipment to tap into for sub-ins. Something tells me these trains would not be using the Renaissance cars (including any equipment from the Ocean).

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by NH2060 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:12 pm

Prospects are looking good. Halifax-Moncton trains would start later this year.
He told reporters Via and the municipality need to finalize an operating plan that looks at capacity, traffic schedules and pricing, then bring it to CN, the railway owner, for approval. Desjardins-Siciliano said the work is headed in the right direction and he expected the owner would be open to the idea as long as there are no conflicts.

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by MikeCDN » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:41 am

It's about time they started doing this. The populations of these towns isn't shrinking and driving is becoming too costly these days.

Just my thoughts,

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by bdawe » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:18 pm

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I wanted to map what the proposal would look like
B. Dawe's map of routes and urban populations https://brendandawe.carto.com/viz/80b9d ... /embed_map" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; NOW updated with 2016 Canadian Populations

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by electricron » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:53 am

What rolling stock is available for running these additional trains?

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by andrewjw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:06 pm

electricron wrote:What rolling stock is available for running these additional trains?
Presumably the Texas RDCs would have been used had VIA won the auction for them.

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by electricron » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:24 pm

andrewjw wrote:
electricron wrote:What rolling stock is available for running these additional trains?
Presumably the Texas RDCs would have been used had VIA won the auction for them.
Are there other RDCs lying around idle VIA could use or refurbish?

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by Backshophoss » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:37 pm

Most of VIA's RDC's have been scrapped,when TSI went "belly up",they were at that facility,stored in poor condition waiting for
a turn in the shop for overhaul/upgrade. The scrapping was done after the "courthouse steps" sale of TSI's remains.
Same shop did the LRC car upgrade/rebuild.
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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by dowlingm » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:29 pm

I suspect VIA will keep an eye on things in Vermont, but F40PH locomotives and HEP stock would be my guess in order to keep commonality with Ocean stock, at least until the concept is proven. They have ambitions to do some medium distance runs in NS/NB also.

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Re: VIA Proposes Halifax Commuter Rail

Post by NH2060 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:42 am

dowlingm wrote:I suspect VIA will keep an eye on things in Vermont, but F40PH locomotives and HEP stock would be my guess in order to keep commonality with Ocean stock, at least until the concept is proven. They have ambitions to do some medium distance runs in NS/NB also.
+1. I would think the F40s + coaches would be more practical for the Halifax-Moncton/Moncton-Campbellton runs.

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